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FALSE FLAG TERROR | 9/11 | 7/7

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Kozmik
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#1336 | Posted: 22 Feb 2012 17:41
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I was speaking to a bloke at work last night and mentioned that you just cannot trust any MSM to tell you the truth. He agreed. I told him that the official story of 9/11 is laughable and full of holes. He agreed, saying he'd never really questioned it before, but now that I pointed it out, yes, he can see there are many problems with the whole thing. I said 7/7 was the same. He agreed. I said about a couple of my own UFO sightings, one of which was actually reported in the local rag [Express and Star] but that according to the government there is nothing to it. Yes, he can see my point, he said. I don't know how much he really took on board, but I was happy to tell him some things that you generally have to be carefull with when discussing with folk who are still locked into the normal paradigm. I don't know if his interest was aroused enough for him to make his own investigation; in fact I think he doesn't go on-line so is probably not in a posistion to look at stuff personally. But my mate Dave [who will shortly be joining us on this forum as Daveywales all being well] is convinced that people in general are starting to wake up at last. I don't know about that, yet. How do we know our views are becoming more mainstream and less "kooky" if the likes of C4 news would still class Truth Seekers as conspiricy freaks? I think we are still firmly in the minority. Pity.
abitofgreen
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#1337 | Posted: 22 Feb 2012 17:46
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MK_DON:
I think if it weren't for drugs he'd only have had half an act.... lol

So very true and i sometimes think i would only have half the story of the big picture if it wasn't for my naive experimentation back when.

MK_DON:
Respect and kindest wishes.. or perhaps more appropriately
LOVE LAUGHTER & TRUTH

Right back atcha fella!....that's all there is!
I think i remember reading somewhere that they were amongst Bill's last words?

wensam:
I agree the slowly slowly approach works best (unless you happen across a situation like Sunburns). Start with something that might affect them so they can relate to it and think about it.

Couldn't agree with you more....I went on a crusade at first and learned the hard way.

wensam:
Yes, yes and yes!

You sound like Meg Ryan in that famous scene.....lol....just pulling your leg!
wensam
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#1338 | Posted: 22 Feb 2012 19:10
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abitofgreen:

wensam:
Yes, yes and yes!

You sound like Meg Ryan in that famous scene.....lol....just pulling your leg!

Bet you didn't know words had such power! LOL I see what you mean!
Planettraveller
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#1339 | Posted: 22 Feb 2012 20:48
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Kozmik:
I told him that the official story of 9/11 is laughable and full of holes. He agreed, saying he'd never really questioned it before

Great stuff Kozmik thats the only way to get the word out.My son in law tells his mates at work about all this stuff and they are really getting into.They go to him the following day sayin "hey I looked that stuff up last night and its wild"Its early days for us frustrated ones but we gotta keep spreading the word.COME THE REVOLUTION!!!!
MK_DON
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#1340 | Posted: 24 Feb 2012 10:15 | Edited by: MK_DON
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Sunburn - perhaps we wish to re-ignite our debate? LOL
http://www.davidicke.com./headlines/61669-tarpley-false-flag-alert-blaming-assad-for- nato-murders-
A reliable Russian source in Syria warns that al Jazeera is about to launch within hours a major false flag provocation. Al Jazeera will allege that 17 children have been killed by Assad's forces. These children are already dead, and have been killed by NATO death squads. The goal is to create an atmosphere of hysteria at the Tunis "Friends of Syria" conference today Friday, which otherwise threatens to be a fiasco due to the boycott by Russia, China, and Lebanon, and due to the fragmented nature of the Syria opposition. Please spread this story as fast as you can as a highest priority False Flag Alert. --Webster Tarpley'
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/24/world/middleeast/un-panel-accuses-syria-of-crimes-a gainst-humanity.html?_r=3&pagewanted=2

http://rt.com/usa/news/us-military-intervention-syria-045/
Sources in Washington tell Israeli news agency Debka that the Pentagon is currently drafting the approach they want America to take in the Syria ordeal, and once it is ready for the president, Obama could approve military action. Debka adds, however, that the decision will also depend on what US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton takes away from this week's Tunis conference.
skipman
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#1341 | Posted: 24 Feb 2012 19:20
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Sunburn:
hey guys, I'm looking for a little bit of support....
On my way home tonight (public transport) I was privy to a conversation being held by 3-4 young lads about the illuminati, al-Qaeda, NWO etc, and I couldn't help myself, and dare I say, felt compelled to speak up for the first time in public regarding the above topics.

They say to succeed when speaking in public it is best to talk about something that motivates you and you feel passionate about. You did it for an hour .Well done.
nordsee220
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#1342 | Posted: 26 Feb 2012 19:33 | Edited by: nordsee220
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Copied from the site see link below

Your last 26 days of life...

On March 2, 2012, the zionists (isreali mossad and cia agents) who are the stooges of the central banksters, will attack an American naval ship (as they did with the USS Liberty).

They will try to sink this ship with a huge loss of life of American sailors.

They will pretend to be Iranians to make you mad at Iran.

They intend to provoke officialdom in the US and Russia and China into killing us all.

This according to "Half Past Human" at http://halfpasthuman.com/lastdaysofyourlife.html
skipman
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#1343 | Posted: 26 Feb 2012 21:34
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Can't these guys wait till after my holiday?
Sunburn
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#1344 | Posted: 27 Feb 2012 09:59
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@MK_DON - Food for thought, and perhaps a fresh perspective....

The Middle East could soon see new battles over rights to oil and gas beneath the eastern Mediterranean in the Levant Basin and Aegean Sea. The discovery of huge reserves off Israel's coast is changing the geopolitical balance of power in the region.
RT.com linkage
skipman
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#1345 | Posted: 29 Feb 2012 07:27 | Edited by: skipman
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It would appear THEY are trying to link the wife of an ALLEDGED 7/7 bomber with the Mopmbasa bombing.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/terrorism-in-the-uk/9112389/July-7-bombers-wid ow-on-the-run-over-links-with-terrorist-cell.html
Arrmand
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#1346 | Posted: 29 Feb 2012 11:20
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skipman:
THEY are trying to link the wife of an ALLEDGED 7/7 bomber

I wonder if there is some other thing going on, is the public waking up to the idea that the 7/7 bombing was a plot by our own dear government? by making people think that even the wife's of those poor pasty's being killed then blamed.
phil_anthropist
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#1347 | Posted: 29 Feb 2012 13:02
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Hi Guys,

Good thread!

I set the intent "I want to understand how this world works".

That intent lead to a series of "coincidences :)" which probably started with "Secrets of Power" by Ingo Swann - (I was already very interested in the Remote Viewing phenomena) and some of Noam Chomsky's work (I have moved past Chomsky as I believe he is a gatekeeper, but his output regarding the media is nevertheless accurate, and it's a very good starting place for people who are "locked in" to the truth of the mainstream media).

I was then introduced to David Ickes work which I would highly recommend to anyone, and have read down many directions since. By the way, Richards' presentation covering media control is excellent, it's very well thought out and presented, and gets the message across brilliantly, it's certainly the best down to earth analysis and expose' on the subject I have seen.

When I first came across anything new and paradigm busting I couldn't wait to share it with everyone I knew. Eventually I got used to and even watched for the "glazing over" to start.

The "glazing over" is a tangible effect, watch their eyes, there's no mistaking it. From that point on you might as well be talking to a sheep! Or if you want to get their interest back start talking about football or eastenders! Better still, say good day and leave them to it.

My problem is I can't talk about football, or rugby, or eastenders, because quite frankly it's pointless shite! But! To dismiss them so easily is missing the point, and (in my opinion) they are there as parts of the web of the many distractions which dilute our attention, and hence our focus/energy.

Once you start to look at everything more critically, you begin to see that our whole way of life and view of reality is built on deceit and lies. I think I have remarked to Richard in an email that to look at the UFO phenomenon with an open mind, you cannot help but be drawn down other avenues of enquiry. UFO's are just one part of the jigsaw puzzle, what their status is in the grand scheme of things I really am not sure. I certainly hope we are not some "cattle" or prey species. Though the way our own history is denied to us, a history which certainly goes back tens of thousands of years and may go back millions of years, makes me very suspicious.

Look at Richplanet now, it's becoming more diverse all the time. It has to, everything is linked and it's all part of the puzzle.

Are we being ruled by a psycopathic minority, (well, yes the evidence suggests we are) is that all they are - Human Psychopaths?

Are that minority the top of the pyramid of power and control?

Are even "they" pawns in a bigger game?

My threepeneth :) and, when all is said and done, my opinion based on my own investigations and experience.

"You can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink"

To sum up, I think people only open to this bigger picture information when they are ready.

I think some people will never be ready, and perhaps sometimes that in it's self is a choice, and it's theirs to make, as much as it might frustrate "us".

For the minority of us on here who are open, let's find out what we can!

Hope I haven't bored anyone!

Phil.
Sunburn
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#1348 | Posted: 1 Mar 2012 08:51 | Edited by: Sunburn
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Hello all, although the majority on here will happily say you cant believe the MSM, I find the MSM often runs very small snippets of information that go straight under the radar which to anyone else wouldn't likely register, but the following caught my eye today...

Metro - Page 22
'Security Is Ready For Anything'
SECURITY plans are in place to make sure Britain is 'prepared in every respect' to deal with threats during the Olympic Game, defense secretary Philip Hammond said yesterday.

The potential for danger was 'hopefully very unlikely' he said during a visit to RAF Waddington in Linconshire to observe an air security training exercise for the Games. 'Part of this exercise is making anyone with ill intention aware of the layered air defense that will be in place,' said Mr Hammond.

Air defense will include sniper carrying RAF Puma and Navy Lynx helicopters as well as missile systems.

So, breaking that down, first off... and worryingly...
Britain should be prepared in any respect at any moment in time not just at the Olympics in order for our armed services to defend the country should we not?

Next, Mr Hammond is hopeful that nothing will happen, this suggests to me something will! as any potential threats would have and should have been identified by now, with only a few months to go.

A 'Layered Air Defense' also signifies to me that this will be the expected method of attack should their be one.

Perhaps im reading far to much into this..... but is there anyone else on the these boards (MK_DON) perhaps also noticing snippets foretelling of future events about the London Olympics.
MK_DON
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#1349 | Posted: 1 Mar 2012 13:05 | Edited by: MK_DON
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Sunburn:
I find the MSM often runs very small snippets of information that go straight under the radar which to anyone else wouldn't likely register

You are right...
Something detailed by IRC in Hidden Agenda (i think) is that it is TPTB's belief system they MUST tell us what they are going to do before they actually do it -
(which is why documents such as PNAC's are made available to the public)
Once they have put their plans out into the public arena & there is no reaction they then see it as a mandate for them to proceed

Sunburn:
Air defense will include sniper carrying RAF Puma and Navy Lynx helicopters as well as missile systems

Factor in HMS Ocean, the largest warship in the Navy, being anchored in the Thames at Greenwich.
more British troops being stationed here during the games than are currently fighting in Afghanistan
And the 'rehersal' http://news.sky.com/home/uk-news/article/16152128
for a Mumbai (i.e. FF) style terrorist attack
and it seems like the Olympians (committee of 300) are def. preparing for something....

Given the symbolism of the Olympic torch (the torch bearer - the light bearer), the location of the games being BabyLONDON, the 210N Logo, the mascotts having 1 all-seing eye, etc etc
and it does seem like there are lots of clues to indicate that the Olympians are gearing up for a FF terrorist attack -
or perhaps even a FF invasion..... to the tune of 'Chariots of Fire'

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2010/dec/05/olympic-games-2012-alien-conspiracy-theory
From the Guardian... FFS
The basic scenario goes something like this: while the world's eyes are on London in 2012, a spectacular alien invasion will take place at the Olympic stadium. Or so the public will think; it will actually be a hoax invasion, orchestrated by the New World Order as an excuse to stage a global coup d'etat. Terrified by the appearance of aliens, the world's populace will surrender their civil liberties, and "they" – a vague array of elite cliques such as the Bilderberg group, the Freemasons, the Illuminati, and dynasties such as the English royal family, the Rockefellers and the Rothschilds – will have smoothly achieved their goal of a single world government, economy and religion.

For anyone unsure of why I use the term Olympians - this is a great online book
http://www.scribd.com/doc/5580256/Conspirators-Hierarchy-The-Story-of-the-Committee-o f-300-by-Dr-John-Coleman
Stop for a moment and consider how President Bush ordered the brutal slaying of 150,000 Iraqi troops, in a convoy of military vehicles carrying white flags, on their way back to Iraq under Geneva Convention rules of agreed disengagement and withdrawal. Imagine the horror of the Iraqi troops when, in spite of waving their white flags, they were mowed down by American aircraft......From where did President Bush get his orders to act in this MONSTROUS fashion? He got them from the Royal Institute for International Affairs(RIIA) who received its mandate from the Committee of 300, also known as the "Olympians."
MK_DON
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#1350 | Posted: 1 Mar 2012 14:23
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Sunburn:
@MK_DON - Food for thought, and perhaps a fresh perspective....

Great point btw...
Also about London 2012...
My opinion is that although FF terror attack is far more likely than a FF Alien Invasion (I don't discount the poss. of the latter)
At the very least TPTB have ALREADY used the event to justify our giving up more privacy in the name of security
http://rt.com/news/london-olympics-security-drones-007/
& put our country even further into debt by using our tax monies to fund the games,
building stadiums and transport links etc etc...

One other point to factor in is that along with our massive military presence, outsourcing re the security of the games has gone to companies from the same country who were responsible for the security at 9.11 (i.e. ISRAELI security companies).
Combine this with the terror drills and again this makes me think a FF ATTACK of some kind is likely...

I guess one BEACON of hope is that more and more people are waking up to this
http://www.infowars.com/new-film-exposes-the-blueprint-of-madness-unleashed-by-the-ne w-world-order/
The facts are in– terrorism as a mass threat is a hoax. It is government, and the elite who control it, that pose the real threat to humanity.
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