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#106 | Posted: 25 Nov 2010 09:44
The Wireless Revolution is Here... and It's Killing Us!

This is another thing that we will not truly know the extent of any effect for years. One thing you can rely on is that information will be suppressed and adulterated. By it's nature I think we can take it for granted that EMF exposure interferes with biological functions. You don't need to be an expert to conclude this. It is a another ticking timebomb.
#107 | Posted: 25 Nov 2010 10:01
It was a very clear day Yesterday, clear blue sky, it was perfect conditions for ALL of the different contrails to form up there.

There were dozens of the 'on' off 'on' off ones.
Lots of the single spreading start and stop ones.
Lots of the 'crossing' 'on' 'off' ones (forming the traditional 'chemtrailers' grids)

I took several - lots - of photos yesterday. To add to my mounting collection of easily explainable CONTRAILS.

As the atmospheric conditions were just perfect to produce a blue sky littered with the whole array of different Contrails, that I`m sure, many of the ignorant fearmongers looking up would have been only too ready to try to explain as something 'sinister'.

Makes me laugh.

just a couple:

#108 | Posted: 25 Nov 2010 16:19
What is an Internet Troll?

An Internet "troll" is a person who delights in sowing discord on the Internet.
He (and it is usually he) tries to start arguments and upset people.

Trolls see Internet communications services as convenient venues for their
bizarre game. For some reason, they don't "get" that they are hurting real
people. To them, other Internet users are not quite human but are a kind of
digital abstraction. As a result, they feel no sorrow whatsoever for the pain
they inflict. Indeed, the greater the suffering they cause, the greater their
'achievement' (as they see it). At the moment, the relative anonymity of the net
allows trolls to flourish.

Trolls are utterly impervious to criticism (constructive or otherwise). You
cannot negotiate with them; you cannot cause them to feel shame or compassion;
you cannot reason with them. They cannot be made to feel remorse. For some
reason, trolls do not feel they are bound by the rules of courtesy or social
#109 | Posted: 25 Nov 2010 19:00 | Edited by: Starseed
IMO a TROLL would not discuss evidence that was contrary to their belief system. A TROLL would disregard physical evidence (photos) posted - on topic, on the board topic.
A troll would simply post nonsensical tripe about trolls to disrupt any sensible scientific (or otherwise) discussion thus bringing disruption and nausea instead. i.e. - Trolling.

I think this is more apt in this situation:

"Procrustean Science" is a wonderful phrase I came across on the internet in a paper on "Indigenous siderophiles in the lunar highlands". It's a rare phrase, deriving from the legend of Procrustes, who was an inn-keeper that liked his guests to fit their beds exactly. If the guests were too short, he would stretch them on a rack, and if they were too long, he would chop off their feet.

In Procrustean science, the bed represents the theory, and the guests represent the facts and observations constituting the evidence. If the facts do not fit, then they are simply altered to make them fit the theory.

That's the problem with chemtrail theory, they start with the theory, and then pick and choose facts, and narrowly interpret information in a way that fits the theory. They problem is that you can do that for ANY theory. Just constantly refine your interpretation so it is always correct.

Real science does not work like that. It starts with the facts, and then considers all possible explanations, and narrows in on the theory that fits the facts, rather than picking and adjusting the facts that fit the theory.



Photo`s from yesterday supplied - No discussion advanced, Looking to make everything 'fit' around one`s own belief system is fine, just don`t expect everyone else to buy it.

Do either of those 2 photos show 'chemtrailing' in anyones opinion? Because this sort of 'evidence' is exactly what the chemtard argument revolves around, and around, and around and..... Well that and very poor science. (which if you show up their poor science you get called names and all sorts of other abuse). Fact based discussion fails at the first hurdle for 'chemtards' and that`s the problem. Their science is easily debunked (unfortunately) and when that goes the insults begin...

Could you possibly imagine what would happen if someone were to ever go on the health thread (?) and say that the very idea that all cancer can be cured by pouring baking soda on it is nothing but total and utter disinformation, lies and tripe? And bring some scientific evidence along to support the fact? NO! Well luckily nobody has, yet. One can fool some of the people some of the time but not .... Blah. You have enough rope already if you can get away with stuff like that (don`t you?) Anyway, a health post here would be OFF TOPIC SO LETS keep that talk in the appropriate thread. (or that would be called trolling by some)

In the meantime - enjoy 2 of my contrail pictures, they are so pretty... Feel free to call them chemical spraying if you dare...
#110 | Posted: 26 Nov 2010 09:11
Nice clear day again today, already took a couple of beauties up there. If they turn out they will be corkers.

If you have a camera get yourself out and look up, it looks at some times of the day, when it is really clear, that every single plain in the sky is leaving weird 'chemtrails of death' behind them. All of them. I had no idea that so many pilots were involved in the cover up and spraying? All from what seem to be 'commercial` flights too. The bastards! And they are criss crossing again. Don`t worry, I`m gathering the photographic 'evidence'. Stand by evil doers!
#111 | Posted: 26 Nov 2010 09:34
How Terahertz Waves (from body scanners) Tear Apart DNA

How Terahertz Waves Tear Apart DNA

A new model of the way the THz waves interact with DNA explains how the damage is done and why evidence has been so hard to gather

kfc 10/30/2009


Great things are expected of terahertz waves, the radiation that fills the slot in the electromagnetic spectrum between microwaves and the infrared. Terahertz waves pass through non-conducting materials such as clothes , paper, wood and brick and so cameras sensitive to them can peer inside envelopes, into living rooms and "frisk" people at distance.

The way terahertz waves are absorbed and emitted can also be used to determine the chemical composition of a material. And even though they don't travel far inside the body, there is great hope that the waves can be used to spot tumours near the surface of the skin.

With all that potential, it's no wonder that research on terahertz waves has exploded in the last ten years or so.

But what of the health effects of terahertz waves? At first glance, it's easy to dismiss any notion that they can be damaging. Terahertz photons are not energetic enough to break chemical bonds or ionise atoms or molecules, the chief reasons why higher energy photons such as x-rays and UV rays are so bad for us. But could there be another mechanism at work?

The evidence that terahertz radiation damages biological systems is mixed. "Some studies reported significant genetic damage while others, although similar, showed none," say Boian Alexandrov at the Center for Nonlinear Studies at Los Alamos National Laboratory in New Mexico and a few buddies. Now these guys think they know why.

Alexandrov and co have created a model to investigate how THz fields interact with double-stranded DNA and what they've found is remarkable. They say that although the forces generated are tiny, resonant effects allow THz waves to unzip double-stranded DNA, creating bubbles in the double strand that could significantly interfere with processes such as gene expression and DNA replication. That's a jaw dropping conclusion.

And it also explains why the evidence has been so hard to garner. Ordinary resonant effects are not powerful enough to do do this kind of damage but nonlinear resonances can. These nonlinear instabilities are much less likely to form which explains why the character of THz genotoxic
effects are probabilistic rather than deterministic, say the team.

This should set the cat among the pigeons. Of course, terahertz waves are a natural part of environment, just like visible and infrared light. But a new generation of cameras are set to appear that not only record terahertz waves but also bombard us with them. And if our exposure is set to increase, the question that urgently needs answering is what level of terahertz exposure is safe.

Ref: DNA Breathing Dynamics in the Presence of a Terahertz Field
#112 | Posted: 26 Nov 2010 09:52
Don`t see many body scanners in the fields around here, get many up there that you come across while out in the ENVIRONMENT?
#113 | Posted: 26 Nov 2010 10:33 | Edited by: Starseed
A nice 'dramatic' picture of the 'chemtrails of death' over our area this morning:

(c) Starseed
#114 | Posted: 29 Nov 2010 02:49
This is geo-engineering, sky=trails, not chemtrails.... including morgellons. dk

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#115 | Posted: 29 Nov 2010 03:14
Rosalind Peterson's Speech

UNITED NATIONS " SEPTEMBER 3-5, 2007 " New York 60TH Annual DPI/NGO Conference on Climate Change: “How It IMPACTS Us All”

The 60th Annual Climate Change Conference took place at the United Nations Headquarters in New York from September 5-7, 2007. More than 2,500 representatives from over 80 countries attended the roundtables, panels, and workshops during the 3-Day event. The Conference reviewed the scientific evidence on climate change, including its consequences on indigenous peoples, water security, land use, and the politics of energy. Organized by the United Nations Department of Public Information (DPI) in collaboration with the NGO/DPI Executive
Committee, the Conference aimed to facilitate individual actions plans that address the threat of catastrophe posed by climate change and inspire participants to take action to mitigate, and in some cases, reverse the effects of this environmental crisis.

On May 21, 2007, Rosalind Peterson, lifelong Redwood Valley, California resident, was invited by Kiyo Akasaka, Under- Secretary General of the United Nations, to address this Conference during both a workshop, held on September 5th, and a round-table session, held on September 6, 2007, at the United Nations. Rosalind was invited to address this conference due to her research and work in the agriculture field relating to climate change, global dimming, and the
affects of man-made clouds and experimental weather modification programs on agriculture.
#116 | Posted: 29 Nov 2010 09:00
Friend in the US sent me this link from ECETI NEWS about jet stream going haywire. ls-for-Europe-Predicted-by-Mid-Week

#117 | Posted: 4 Dec 2010 11:13
Subject: Chemtrails + HAARP: Weather Warfare
Date: Sat, 4 Dec 2010 00:22:15 -0500

This History Channel episode describes several scenarios of
actual and potential weather warfare tactics that have been
tested or deployed by more than one nation over the past
century, with deadly results.


- Alexandra
#118 | Posted: 4 Dec 2010 22:52
Rosalind Peterson: The Chemtrail Cover-Up

California Skywatch watchdog exposes how clandestine NASA-military programs are poisoning the environment, food and water supply
Rosalind Peterson of California Skywatch was a certified U.S.D.A. Farm Service Agency Crop Loss Adjustor working in more than ten counties throughout California. She now spearheads a watchdog group that monitors uncontrolled experimental weather modification programs, atmospheric heating and testing programs, and ocean and atmospheric experimental geoengineering programs Peterson is at the forefront of the chemtrail research field and how the unexplained patterns that scar our skies are "causing detrimental human health effects and environmental degradation."

In this 1-hour plus video exclusive for Prison members, Peterson reveals how she was first spurred to investigate chemtrails after being alerted to them by someone at the Mendocino County Probation Department. Peterson then began to intensely study the phenomenon and note that aircraft producing the trails would circle the county in a clock-like loop, covering the entire area with a cloudy haze in as little as three hours. Peterson cites NASA studies showing that the chemtrails turn into man-made clouds, exacerbating artificial climate change. However, Peterson states her contention that NASA is attempting to cover-up the true nature of chemtrails and convince people that they are a natural phenomenon, a ruse dutifully parroted by top weather and satellite observatories, who as Peterson explains acknowledge the fact that man-made chemtrails are changing the weather yet still label them as natural weather fronts in their public broadcasts.

Because such vast unapproved and unwitting experiments with our atmosphere are obviously completely illegal without Congressional approval and thorough public debate, Peterson notes how academics and scientists have deliberately sought to keep the word "geoengineering" out of the public education and college system and keep it within the confines of elitist scientific circles, but that the idea is now slowly being rolled out to the public as part of a gradual conditioning exercise.

Peterson shows a map provided by the FAA which reveals how "intra-flights" mainly of military origin are causing the chemtrails by flying in loops around counties in flight paths that differ substantially from normal airline trajectories. The flights have no other obvious purpose than to disperse chemtrails because they have no fixed destination, they merely fly around and around in circles.

As proponents of geoengineering like Obama's science czar John P. Holdren have proposed, blocking sunlight is a primary effect of chemtrailing, and sulphur could be one of the chemicals being dispersed by these trails. As Peterson explains, sulphur has been linked with a host of health problems, which is why California removed it from diesel fuel in the first place.

As we have documented separately, exposure to sulphur has been linked with the following health effects.
- Neurological effects and behavioral changes
- Disturbance of blood circulation
- Heart damage
- Effects on eyes and eyesight
- Reproductive failure
- Damage to immune systems
- Stomach and gastrointestinal disorder
- Damage to liver and kidney functions
- Hearing defects
- Disturbance of the hormonal metabolism
- Dermatological effects
- Suffocation and lung embolism

After studying water quality samples for the state of California stretching back some 30 years, Peterson found that starting from 1990, water sources were all registering unusual spikes in certain chemicals at precisely the same time, namely arsenic, barium, aluminum, calcium, manganese, magnesium, lead and iron. By measuring the spikes in these chemicals in the water supply with similar spikes in these chemicals in air quality samples, Peterson was able to conclude that the cause was airborne and that it had to be coming from the atmosphere. Peterson notes that mixing aluminum and barium creates clouds and that NASA experiments based around this concept were coinciding with the spikes in such chemicals measured in water and air quality samples.

This is an enlightening, detailed and documented explanation of how chemtrailing is being conducted, who is responsible for it and what the consequences are for our health and the environment.
#119 | Posted: 8 Dec 2010 13:00
just received. dk

Huge Chemtrail Operation - Patagonia Subset - Terra 1km True Color i
Tue Dec 7, 2010 12:51 pm (PST)
#120 | Posted: 8 Dec 2010 16:24
Good info on here.
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