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Starseed
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#76 | Posted: 9 Oct 2010 18:41
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This is the only response you will get from me now you have shown yourself to be a troll:



You never post anything new,

You hardly ever, (if at all) start a topic for discussion.

What is your interest if you don`t mind me asking? Why are you here?

If it is to ruin threads that contain useful information then well done! You are almost achieving that goal.

TROLL
dreamkatcher
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#77 | Posted: 9 Oct 2010 18:51
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youve probably seen these, but just delete if you have..

http://educate-yourself.org/cn/waterdeliverysabotage19jun07.shtml

http://www.patentstorm.us/applications/20090010962/claims.html

http://www.theflucase.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1763%3Apopulat ion-reduction-globalist-endgame-begins-&catid=1%3Alatest-news&Itemid=64&lang=en

Prince Philip was heard to say that when he dies he wants to come back as a virus to infect all of the useless eaters..............

David Attenborough is also keen for depopulation..

Mr.Microsoft is too.

Probably a lot more as well. See this one.

http://www.google.com/search?ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&sourceid=navclient&gfns=1&q=depopulati on

dk
Starseed
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#78 | Posted: 9 Oct 2010 19:03
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dreamkatcher:
Prince Philip was heard to say that when he dies he wants to come back as a virus to infect all of the useless eaters..............

David Attenborough is also keen for depopulation..

Mr.Microsoft is too.

Yes DK. I did see that 'Prince - person' said that. What did you think to that 10:10 video? It is OK to kill climate change deniers? It is all tied into the depopulation agenda do you think? I do.
Starseed
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#79 | Posted: 9 Oct 2010 19:52
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dreamkatcher:
The crash happened at 4.30am around 60 miles off Finistere on the north western coast of France.

The 120m-long YM Uranus is carrying a cargo of highly flammable heavy pygas - a type of gasoline.

Anyway DK - the obvious one would be about the name of the ship yes?

'UR ANUS'

And the cargo of uranus being highly flammable gas ! Gotta love it, just surprised you left it for me...
dreamkatcher
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#80 | Posted: 9 Oct 2010 20:12
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I think a lot of the stuff we scoff at is a form of depopulation. I, personally, dont have injections/vaccinations, not even as a baby. There's a lot of info on www.whale.to/ site if you are interested. I know the man & he's well-researched, trustworthy.

With a cargo of gas, it had to be a male ship.

Got to go, got call-out. Back later.

dk
Starseed
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#81 | Posted: 9 Oct 2010 23:19
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dreamkatcher:
With a cargo of gas, it had to be a male ship.

Now that`s what I`m talking about DK - nice one ;-)
dreamkatcher
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#82 | Posted: 9 Oct 2010 23:21
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I was being polite.
Starseed
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#83 | Posted: 9 Oct 2010 23:50
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Know what I like most about sites like this?

Straight to the facts...

For instance - One of my big 'things' would be measles (and the so called cures or whatever they claim for eradicating such diseases)

This site - first link I spotted:
http://www.whale.to/vaccines/measles.html

Quote: "Measles deaths had declined by 99.4% (!) before vaccination, so there isn't any any evidence vaccination played any part in deaths decline,"

And that was more than enough for me to trust the site. Anyone who knows anything about this stuff KNOWS that is true - the rest follows. Try telling the sheep that what they have been told is 99.9 % Lies though - It is hard going.
dreamkatcher
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#84 | Posted: 10 Oct 2010 00:20
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A bit of news for some.

Did you know that when you take a puppy to the vets for innoculation, they get the same injection children get for measles? If it doesnt work properly, for any reason, the result is Parvo Virus, which causes paralysis leading to death in many cases.

I bred, trained, showed, judged, exported dogs for nearly 30 years, & after that info from my vet, I never had another dog injected. Our horses werent injected for equine flu either, & due to family ill-health (husband's brain tumour) I had to sell my dogs & horses, (no support from Gvt), & the only one who was injected dropped down dead at the vets.

dk
dreamkatcher
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#85 | Posted: 10 Oct 2010 00:38
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Starseed:
"Measles deaths had declined by 99.4% (!) before vaccination, so there isn't any any evidence vaccination played any part in deaths decline,"

Somewhere in my seized up system I have a good talk by a doctor quoting percentages of diseases before & after vaccinations. Its gob-smacking.

This one gives figures for all diseases. http://www.whale.to/vaccines/decline1.html

Even the Government agree http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/vac-gen/6mishome.htm

Not only humans affected. http://www.holisticat.com/vaccinations.html

and finally............. http://childhealthsafety.wordpress.com/graphs/

Are YOU getting the flu vaccine this year, or having children/grandchildren vaccinated?

dk
dreamkatcher
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#86 | Posted: 10 Oct 2010 06:43
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Starseed
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#87 | Posted: 10 Oct 2010 08:41
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dreamkatcher:
Are YOU getting the flu vaccine this year, or having children/grandchildren vaccinated?

Told em not to, but they trundled off to the doctors 'again' like good little sheep, and now both sets of our parents have had a dose of the swine flu. Waste of breath.

In the doctors surgery - big posters up publicising it! How can you tell people what`s in it?
Starseed
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#88 | Posted: 10 Oct 2010 09:13
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YET MORE PROOFOF THE WAY THEY USE THE FAKE AGW 'THREAT' FOR OTHER PURPOSES:


Climate change threatens UK harvest (??!!)

Climate change could push up food prices by causing large-scale crop failures in Britain, the Met Office has warned. (THE COMPLETELY DISCREDITED MET OFFICE)

Rising temperatures could mean events such as the drought in Russia this summer, which pushed up grain prices, hit countries like the UK.

But they said the worst effects of climate change could be limited by investment in better farming and the development of new drought resistant or heat tolerant crops. This could be done by aid money, breeding and new technologies like genetic modification (GM).

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/agriculture/8048917/Climate-change-threatens-UK-harv est.html
Starseed
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#89 | Posted: 10 Oct 2010 09:17 | Edited by: Starseed
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US physics professor: 'Global warming is the greatest and most successful pseudoscientific fraud I have seen in my long life'

Harold Lewis is Emeritus Professor of Physics at the University of California, Santa Barbara. Here is his letter of resignation to Curtis G. Callan Jr, Princeton University, President of the American Physical Society.

Anthony Watts describes it thus:
This is an important moment in science history. I would describe it as a letter on the scale of Martin Luther, nailing his 95 theses to the Wittenburg church door. It is worthy of repeating this letter in entirety on every blog that discusses science.

It's so utterly damning that I'm going to run it in full without further comment.

READ IT IN FULL:
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/jamesdelingpole/100058265/us-physics-professor-glob al-warming-is-the-greatest-and-most-successful-pseudoscientific-fraud-i-have-seen-in- my-long-life/


Direct all 'MSM believers' to this link...
Starseed
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#90 | Posted: 10 Oct 2010 09:29 | Edited by: Starseed
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I thought it may be useful to post this, an independent review of the infamous Mann Hockey Stick, (as if it were still considered "factual".)



Mann-made Global Warming from a Hockey Stick...review and perspective by a Professor of Physics (not a nasty little greenfly):
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Dr Richard A. Muller, Professor of Physics, University of California, Berkeley NOT A SCEPTIC - gives his considered views on 'The Hockey Stick Curve:'

Published by M. Mann and colleagues in 1998 and 1999, the [hockey stick] plot showed that the climate of the Northern Hemisphere had been remarkably constant for 900 years until it suddenly began to heat up about 100 years ago - right about the time that human use of fossil fuels began to push up levels of atmospheric carbon dioxide. The overall shape of the curve resembled a hockey stick laying on its back-a straight part with a sudden bend upwards near the end. The hockey stick was turned from a scientific plot into the most widely reproduced picture of the global warming discussion. The hockey stick figure appears five times in just the IPCC report summary volume alone.' The version below comes from the influential 2001 report of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC).

"There was a minor scientific glitch. The hockey stick contradicted previous work that had concluded that there had been a "medieval warm period."

In fact, it disagreed with a plot published by the IPCC itself a decade earlier (in its 1990 report) that showed pronounced warm temperatures from the years 1000 to 1400. It was unfortunate that many scientists endorsed the hockey stick before it could be subjected to the tedious review of time. Ironically, it appears that these scientists skipped the vetting precisely because the results were so important.

Then last month the situation became even more complex. S. McIntyre and R. McKitrick published a paper in Energy and Environment with a detailed critique of the original hockey stick work. They stated bluntly that the original Mann papers contained "collation errors, unjustifiable truncations of extrapolation of source data, obsolete data, geographical location errors, incorrect calculations of principal components, and other quality control defects." Moreover, when they corrected these errors, the medieval warm period came back-strongly. Mann, et al., disagreed. They immediately posted a reply on the Web, with their criticism of McIntyre and McKitrick's analysis.

Let me be clear. My own reading of the literature and study of paleoclimate suggests strongly that carbon dioxide from burning of fossil fuels will prove to be the greatest pollutant of human history. It is likely to have severe and detrimental effects on global climate. I would love to believe that the results of Mann et al. are correct, and that the last few years have been the warmest in a millennium.

Love to believe? My own words make me shudder. They trigger my scientist's instinct for caution. When a conclusion is attractive, I am tempted to lower my standards, to do shoddy work. But that is not the way to truth. When the conclusions are attractive, we must be extra cautious.

I talked about this [the Hockey Stick Curve] at length in my December 2003 article [preceding]. Unfortunately, discussion of this plot has been so polluted by political and activist frenzy that it is hard to dig into it to reach the science. My earlier article was largely a plea to let science proceed unmolested. Unfortunately, the very importance of the issue has made careful science difficult to pursue.


But now a shock: Canadian scientists Stephen McIntyre and Ross McKitrick have uncovered a fundamental mathematical flaw in the computer program that was used to produce the hockey stick. In his original publications of the stick, Mann purported to use a standard method known as principal component analysis, or PCA, to find the dominant features in a set of more than 70 different climate records. But it wasn't so. McIntyre and McKitrick obtained part of the program that Mann used, and they found serious problems. Not only does the program not do conventional PCA, but it handles data normalization in a way that can only be described as mistaken.


Now comes the real shocker. This improper normalization procedure tends to emphasize any data that do have the hockey stick shape, and to suppress all data that do not. To demonstrate this effect, McIntyre and McKitrick created some meaningless test data that had, on average, no trends. This method of generating random data is called "Monte Carlo" analysis, after the famous casino, and it is widely used in statistical analysis to test procedures. When McIntyre and McKitrick fed these random data into the Mann procedure, out popped a hockey stick shape!


That discovery hit me like a bombshell, and I suspect it is having the same effect on many others. Suddenly the hockey stick, the poster-child of the global warming community, turns out to be an artifact of poor mathematics. How could it happen? [Sceptics may say 'contrived mathematics']
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52. USA - Dr Craig Idso Former President and currently Chairman of the Centre for the Study of Carbon Dioxide and Global Change.

He summarises 15 scientific papers which use data from around the world that indicate that from the 9th to 14th Century AD, it was likely to have been 0.5-1.0 C warmer than in 2007.


What the graph should look like without falsified data
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