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dreamkatcher
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#541 | Posted: 10 Feb 2012 09:06
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abitofgreen:
Anyone interested in the afterlife, paranormal, spirit etc. might be interested in checking these videos out pertaining to the Scole experiment.

Fantastic links ABOG. I know now how Im spending my spare time today. Thanks.

dk
abitofgreen
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#542 | Posted: 10 Feb 2012 10:30
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dreamkatcher:
Fantastic links ABOG. I know now how Im spending my spare time today. Thanks.

Your welcome dk.... It's an amazing, groundbreaking documentary that had the hairs on my neck standing up. I had no idea that Rupert Sheldrake was involved in these experiments, which for me, adds to it's credibility.
It's normally a couple of quid to watch so if anyone else wants to watch it do so while it's still free. I will probably buy the extended DVD now.

Hope you enjoy.
wensam
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#543 | Posted: 10 Feb 2012 15:59
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abitofgreen:
The Afterlife Investigations - Movie Feature - The Scole Experiments -

Thanks, had some free time to get absorbed in the film. Makes me want to conduct my own experiments. My partner watches the pakistan version of ghost hunters and wants to get some of the evp recording equipment. Its not too costly.

Another interesting phenomenon is spirit voices coming from children. When my daughter was 4 or 5 months old she spoke the odd word using an adult voice. She said 'spider' in an adult whisper that sounded a bit like me. When she spoke she seemed to be elsewhere, the look in her eyes made me think this. She also said 'eyebrow', again in a whisper and shouted 'mum and dad' using an adult voice. My partner was also witness as she spoke arabic one night a few months after the previous occassion). When her food was placed in front of her in her highchair she said 'mashallah' as would any muslim to be thankful for their food. She said it once in front of me, and then her father approached and she said it again and he did hear it. When I told the psychic I visited he said it was my grandmother. She didn't speak properly until 21/2 nearly 3 and other first words were Ka, this was used for objects, needs- Ka means body, but there is no way she physically or mentally developed enough to say the words she did and to sound like an adult. I believe the psychic.
dreamkatcher
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#544 | Posted: 10 Feb 2012 16:27 | Edited by: dreamkatcher
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abitofgreen:
It's an amazing, groundbreaking documentary that had the hairs on my neck standing up. I had no idea that Rupert Sheldrake was involved in these experiments, which for me, adds to it's credibility.

I have a lot of respect for Rupert Sheldrake. He has no egotistical attitude IMO. Makes him all the more believable in my eyes. Im hoping the people on this forum saw RDHs programme where he talked to Rupert Sheldrake. Very interesting indeed. My spare time didnt materialise, as I was called out, but I have the rest of the night, so far, to get engrossed.

When we look into it, there are/were a lot of people into spirituality, Churchill being one. Pres. Reagan as well (not that they are blameless people), & spiritualism is the only religion granted status by Law. I wont bore anyone with the details as Ive posted it before, but there has to be some credibility to it.

The history of the Native Americans. Aborigines, etc. make good reading as well. Im an honorary blood-sister of a Native American Sun Dancer with the Ogala Sioux tribe & a lot of their ceremonies from 100+ years are still being carried out today.

dk
dreamkatcher
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#545 | Posted: 10 Feb 2012 17:12
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May be of interest/ dk


From Rupert Sheldrake
London, February 10, 2012


Last Sunday The Observer published a profile of me, online here: http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2012/feb/05/rupert-sheldrake-interview-science-delu sion
UK Esquire magazine also published a feature about my research this week (March issue), but it isn't available online.

My longstanding sparring partner, Prof Lewis Wolpert, one of Britain's leading materialists, reviewed The Science Delusion in The Islington Tribune: http://www.islingtontribune.com/reviews/books/2012/jan/books-review-science-delusion- freeing-spirit-enquiry-rupert-sheldrake

Wolpert and I have a ongoing wager about the predictive power of the genome: "By May 1, 2029, given the genome of a fertilised egg of an animal or plant, we will be able to predict in at least one case all the details of the organism that develops from it, including any abnormalities." Wolpert bets that this will happen. I bet it won't. We both set out our cases in New Scientist here: http://www.sheldrake.org/D&C/controversies/genomewager.html

I gave a lecture on the science delusion on Tuesday February 7 at Goldsmiths College, London University, in the Invited Speaker Series hosted by Prof Chris French, the former editor of The Skeptic magazine. The lecture is online here in streaming audio, hosted by The Skeptic: http://www.gold.ac.uk/apru/lectures/

I am giving a talk in Glastonbury Town Hall next Friday evening, February 17, and in Brighton on the evening of Monday February 20, as part of the Brighton Festival. Details here:http://www.sheldrake.org/About/schedule/

Rupert Sheldrake
abitofgreen
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#546 | Posted: 10 Feb 2012 17:40
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wensam:
Thanks, had some free time to get absorbed in the film. Makes me want to conduct my own experiments. My partner watches the pakistan version of ghost hunters and wants to get some of the evp recording equipment. Its not too costly.

I love all the ghost hunting programmes but i cant stomach Yvette Fielding anymore on Most haunted. I have an EMF meter and digital voice recorder. i've been on a few ghost hunts with mixed results. The best results have come from the seances we have conducted with relatives that have come through, reducing one friend to tears with information that none of us, only her, could know.

wensam:
When I told the psychic I visited he said it was my grandmother.

That wouldn't surprise me at all. She isn't born on your grandmothers birthday is she? The reason why i ask is that some schools of thought suggest that reincarnation amongst families is very common. My son is born on my late grandfathers birthday. my sisters daughter is born on her husbands late grandmothers birthday. My son looks very similar to pictures of his great granddad when he was younger..... coincidences?....maybe but i like to think not.

dreamkatcher:
Im hoping the people on this forum saw RDHs programme where he talked to Rupert Sheldrake. Very interesting indeed. My spare time didnt materialise, as I was called out, but I have the rest of the night, so far, to get engrossed.

I saw that programme thanks to Richard and it made me look into Rupert's work a little deeper. I'm sure you will thoroughly enjoy the progamm. It is a truly fascinating documentary. Hearing Rupert, who i respect greatly, describe a spirit hand materialise in front of him adds huge credibility to the Scole experiments. Rupert having established himself that no means of trickery were possible.

I would be interested to hear anyone's thoughts on the video that appeared to show a "grey" alien towards the end of the documentary. For me aliens are inter-dimensional. Not an original theory but i have some interesting ideas on why they most probably are.

dreamkatcher:
When we look into it, there are/were a lot of people into spirituality, Churchill being one. Pres. Reagan as well (not that they are blameless people), & spiritualism is the only religion granted status by Law. I wont bore anyone with the details as Ive posted it before, but there has to be some credibility to it.

For me it is the biggest question there is...do we have a spirit or soul? When you can answer that question for yourself without any doubt it frees you up from the biggest fear there is......death!

I know I've banged on about this a lot but it is all there is.... fear or love. TPTB want you to live in fear. fear of terrorism, fear of war etc etc. Knowing this i try to live my life as much as possible in the now, not worrying too much what may or may not happen. Don't get me wrong....i'm not going to ignore everything that is unfolding around me... when the time comes i will know what to do. I believe i am here, now, for a reason.
Desdichado
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#547 | Posted: 10 Feb 2012 20:13
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abitofgreen:
For me it is the biggest question there is...do we have a spirit or soul? When you can answer that question for yourself without any doubt it frees you up from the biggest fear there is......death!


We do. I am convinced of that. I know that ghosts exist too because I've seen them and sensed their presence on numerous occasions. At school, I woke up one night and went down to the kitchen for a glass of water. At the bottom of a staircase, I saw the apparition of a man wearing a Victorian smoking jacket disappear into a wall at the exact spot where an old doorway once was before the building was altered. There was no fear on my part and I got the distinct impression that the man was benevolent. I saw him again several times over the years.
phil_anthropist
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#548 | Posted: 10 Feb 2012 20:39
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Great post abitofgreen, I've just listened to the interviews, very impressed with Fontana's account.

Phil.
dreamkatcher
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#549 | Posted: 10 Feb 2012 23:38
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abitofgreen:
d it made me look into Rupert's work a little deeper. I'm sure you will thoroughly enjoy the progamm. It is a truly fascinating documentary.

Thats what triggered me off to be interested in his work as well. Not had chance to watch links yet.......... but will do, tomorrow. Im on strike then. Roads very bad, so refusing to go out, so far.


abitofgreen:
For me it is the biggest question there is...do we have a spirit or soul? When you can answer that question for yourself without any doubt it frees you up from the biggest fear there is......death!

I was taught we have both. I think we do.

Try this one = http://www.huffingtonpost.com/robert-lanza/do-we-have-a-soul-a-scien_b_850804.html
dreamkatcher
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#550 | Posted: 10 Feb 2012 23:43
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abitofgreen:
I know I've banged on about this a lot but it is all there is.... fear or love. TPTB want you to live in fear. fear of terrorism, fear of war etc etc. Knowing this i try to live my life as much as possible in the now, not worrying too much what may or may not happen. Don't get me wrong....i'm not going to ignore everything that is unfolding around me... when the time comes i will know what to do. I believe i am here, now, for a reason.

Ive posted recently how I feel about this. I dont live in fear, but I DO question some things that happen to me. I think thats just a normal reaction for anyone. I also do not ignore what is happening around me, & if you check what I said before, it was saying that when the time comes I want to know what to do & how to deal with it. I think we are ALL here for a reason.

dk
skipman
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#551 | Posted: 10 Feb 2012 23:55
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abitofgreen:
A must see for anyone with an interest in the greatest question of them all....is there an afterlife?

Thanks for the link ABOG The part about the war time medium found guilty for witch craft was disturbing,there is more to this case than first appears.
abitofgreen
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#552 | Posted: 11 Feb 2012 00:21
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Desdichado:
I saw the apparition of a man wearing a Victorian smoking jacket disappear into a wall

I've heard and felt lots of things, seen dark shadows and things out the corner of my eye but haven't yet seen a full apparition. Even after knowing these things are real seeing one would still probably freak me out. Saying that i would love to see one.

phil_anthropist:
I've just listened to the interviews, very impressed with Fontana's account.


Try and watch the documentary if you can as there's some excellent photographic and video footage on there and some other witness accounts of the Scole experiments and other strange phenomenon.

dreamkatcher:
I was taught we have both. I think we do.

I'd be interested to hear your thoughts on this as I've always seen them as different words for the same thing.

dreamkatcher:
Ive posted recently how I feel about this. I dont live in fear, but I DO question some things that happen to me. I think thats just a normal reaction for anyone.

An awful lot of people do live in fear though dk. I genuinely believe it's a desired state that TPTB want us all to live in. Divide, instill fear, keep us too busy with crap TV, shit jobs, busy lives, worry. All this and more to stop us realising what we truly are and that there is no death!

dreamkatcher:
when the time comes I want to know what to do & how to deal with it

Certain potential outcomes deserve some forethought but mostly I'd prefer to trust myself to believe i will make the right choice then, rather than waist my time over-thinking it now.
smoopy
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#553 | Posted: 11 Feb 2012 01:18
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abitofgreen:
abitofgreen
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Desdichado: I saw the apparition of a man wearing a Victorian smoking jacket disappear into a wall
I've heard and felt lots of things, seen dark shadows and things out the corner of my eye but haven't yet seen a full apparition. Even after knowing these things are real seeing one would still probably freak me out. Saying that i would love to see one.

phil_anthropist: I've just listened to the interviews, very impressed with Fontana's account.

Try and watch the documentary if you can as there's some excellent photographic and video footage on there and some other witness accounts of the Scole experiments and other strange phenomenon.

dreamkatcher: I was taught we have both. I think we do.
I'd be interested to hear your thoughts on this as I've always seen them as different words for the same thing.

dreamkatcher: Ive posted recently how I feel about this. I dont live in fear, but I DO question some things that happen to me. I think thats just a normal reaction for anyone.
An awful lot of people do live in fear though dk. I genuinely believe it's a desired state that TPTB want us all to live in. Divide, instill fear, keep us too busy with crap TV, shit jobs, busy lives, worry. All this and more to stop us realising what we truly are and that there is no death!

there is no death we as humans live on this is mear a training ground we need stop thinking we die we just move on why carnt anyone see this
Arrmand
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#554 | Posted: 11 Feb 2012 11:09
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smoopy:
there is no death we as humans live on this is mear a training ground we need stop thinking we die we just move on why carnt anyone see this

I believe we are light bodies when you get by this dense body, over the years I have been able to prove to myself that there is a light body, mostly more so over the past 5 years with my heart problems and having by pass surgery I was able to see myself being operated on, the doctors and nurses, and who was waiting for me, one thing I did notice was the amount of light bodies that are around hospitals, some in great distress others looked happy, it was only for a few moments before I was back in my hospital bed and sharing information with the doctors and nurses and was able to tell a nurse where her phone was lol.
wensam
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#555 | Posted: 11 Feb 2012 11:47
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abitofgreen:
She isn't born on your grandmothers birthday is she?

She was not born on her birthday or even the same month. I lost a baby the year before and when I conceived my daughter it was exactly a year later. A few months before she was born I had a dream about 2 babies. They were siting and standing at the same time! The first one looked like me and was laughing, shall we say, in an enlightened fashion. The second one looked like my daughter. Friends have also recounted dreams of babies whilst in the later stages of pregnancy. May be we are so wrapped up in wondering about our new arrivals that it wouldn't be surprising if we all had these dreams or may be we have them for another reason.
smoopy:
there is no death we as humans live on this is mear a training ground we need stop thinking we die we just move on why carnt anyone see this

You are correct in my view smoopy, we are here to learn/experience, our bodies serve this journey. Arrmand, what an amazing experience to have had. Have you had any further experiences?
abitofgreen:
I've heard and felt lots of things, seen dark shadows and things out the corner of my eye but haven't yet seen a full apparition. Even after knowing these things are real seeing one would still probably freak me out. Saying that i would love to see one.

Ha ha ha, I have had similar experiences and feel the same!
My mother has seen things. My dad and her were staying at an old property called Haddo House. During the night my mother was awakened by what sounded like a lively party. She sat up and noticed that the bedroom door was open and there lights on in the hallway. She tried to awaken my father with no joy. Then a tall man wearing a dark suit appeared at the bottom of the bed and spoke to my mother and aplogised for being in the wrong room. That was it. In the morning she told dad, I can imagine the skeptical reply she got! So, she did some detective work re was there a party last night, did lots of guests arrive in the night. A receptionist asked her what room she was in and smiled at the reply as many psychics come to visit and request this room or have experiences there.
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