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THE MOON & SOLAR SYSTEM

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nordsee220
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#1426 | Posted: 12 Jun 2015 23:30
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Again, apologies for the absence but I've been under the weather a lot with the move to my new bungalow.

Here's a head scratcher if ever there was one:

Andrew Johnson ( www.checktheevidence.com ) sent me this link http://www.aulis.com/moonbase3.htm in which the safe re-entry of manned space capsules is being developed from scratch by NASA.
NASA say that the capsule will have to withstand teperatures reaching 2700 C and an inferno worse than hell itself if the astronauts are not to be killed by the (atomic bomb like?) plasma that will surround it.
New technology, developing upon the tiles attached to the space shuttle (which never went above about 365 miles) is hoped to be in place in a few years.

Pity about all those Apollo astronauts who were killed because they didn't have the technology to protect them way back in the dark ages of the moon missions.

But hang on, they didn't die. Not one of them.

Perhaps the laws of physucks were suspended by the US government before adequate protection was invented? (Intentional misspelling.)

They went to the moon? My left arse cheek they did! Not without a bloody time machine to bring the tiles back from the future.
nordsee220
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#1427 | Posted: 30 Jul 2015 21:50
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A new film with a strange and new twist in the tail. The author suggests that the Apollo missions were hoaxed for a reason we should be eternally grateful for. The hoax was to avoid WW3, a nuclear war that would have wiped us out.

Perhaps this is the first step taken by those at the top in a long, drawn out admission that the moon landings were hoaxed as a very necessary means of protecting us all.

https://vimeo.com/126206380
Joe
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#1428 | Posted: 31 Jul 2015 11:08 | Edited by: Joe
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nordsee220:
A new film with a strange and new twist in the tail. The author suggests that the Apollo missions were hoaxed for a reason we should be eternally grateful for. The hoax was to avoid WW3, a nuclear war that would have wiped us out.

Is the author saying, if America make the Soviet Union believe that the U.S. got to the Moon first, then somehow we must have better technology and the Soviet Union better watch out?

I don't think the Soviet Union would have been deterred by America's powers, whether they went to the Moon or not. The Soviet Union were close by in getting to the Moon themselves (if you believe this whole Moon-race thing).
nordsee220
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#1429 | Posted: 31 Jul 2015 11:45 | Edited by: nordsee220
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You have to bear in mind that the scenario was the US were greatly concerned that Russia had developed a rocket capable of reaching the USA if it could propel a man into space. That said, there is circumstantial evidence that Yuri Gagarin was NOT EVER sent into space. We are asked to believe there are live TV shots of him in his capsule, being not much bigger than a toilet closet. Inside that closet were an early 1960's TV camera (about the size of a suitcase?) and two camera lights perhaps each 100 watts and maybe 20 to 30cm in diameter (as there are two shadows of his head behind him). All a tad far-fetched but hey, it was the 60's and we believed anything the psyentists said to be Gospel. We were never taught to look at the logistics, just accept whet we were told and 20 years earlier we would have all been given big boots, a tin hat, a gun and accepted it as completely normal.
Additionally, mission controller Sergei Korolev had the countdown stopped until he could personally ascend the launch gantry and ascertain that the capsule hatch was properly bolted shut.

OH COMEON! Delaying a launch by even a few seconds puts everything hundreds of miles out (orbital position, tracking, re-entry, landing) when we are talking about velocities in the region of 25,000kph. A 40 minute or so delay to open and reclose a hatch which originally took 5 men to seal and you'd have to stop. go home and re-arrange absolutely everything for another month.

I stand by my belief that this is an early, toe in the water, controlled "conspiracy theory" to hint to us how very lucky we are to be here as Apollo averted all out nuclear war. We will thank NASA for the grand deception to which we, our kids and generations to come owe their lives.

I didn't mean that WW3 would have occurred. I meant that we will be forced to believe it was a near certainty and that Apollo was our saviour.

The Powers That Be are indeed, all powerful and they play, even we enlightened few, like a Stradivarius string section.
Joe
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#1430 | Posted: 31 Jul 2015 13:18 | Edited by: Joe
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nordsee220:
I stand by my belief that this is an early, toe in the water, controlled "conspiracy theory" to hint to us how very lucky we are to be here as Apollo averted all out nuclear war. We will thank NASA for the grand deception to which we, our kids and generations to come owe their lives.

And then again for all we know, both sides could have been playing a game of bluff to outwit the another and neither the U.S. and the Soviet Union had the technology at the time to go into space - let alone the Moon!

I don't think we (the people) are being told the truth at anytime, even when so-called information is leaked out today. For all we know the U.S. Government and the Soviet Government could have been in league with each other (and still are), and the only ones really being deceived here are the ordinary people of the world. Governments around the world do dirty business together and covertly work against humanity, for a multitude of reasons.
nordsee220
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#1431 | Posted: 31 Jul 2015 14:43 | Edited by: nordsee220
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Joe mate, it may not be in our lifetime but I'd bet money on it that some day the US will disclose the moon fiasco to have been just that. They'll say how necessary it was to protect us from those damned Ruskies. NASA, Tricky Dickie and all and all will be bloody posthumous heroes instead of the real truth coming out - that NASA Mooned Amerika, fooled the World, making some people very, very wealthy whilst ripping the piss out of billions of people in the process.

I was robbed. I bought Apollo magazines, posters, books and ate God knows how many packets of "Astronaut Tudor Crisps" to get the free astronaut badges with four empty packets.

Just think, at today's value, the Apollo Roadshow cost about $180 billion. That's about $600 for every man, woman and child in the US, in one decade. When the "truth" comes out, as it will, it will be grossly adjusted to ensure no-one's head rolls. This film is, I firmly believe, a toe in the water to begin the long, slow public preparation for the admission that Apollo was a lie.

Why else would the narrator repeat, several times that, even if Apollo was a huge lie, it was for a very good reason and those concerned deserve our unerring gratitude for what they did?
Joe
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#1432 | Posted: 31 Jul 2015 20:03
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nordsee220:
Joe mate, it may not be in our lifetime but I'd bet money on it that some day the US will disclose the moon fiasco to have been just that.

The U.S. will wait at least two or three hundred years before they ever say "NASA was all a hoax folks". And just think of all that interest you will have coming to you, if you start investing your money now, for this to happen one day.
SPIRAL
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#1433 | Posted: 8 Aug 2015 10:34
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NASA is a whole paradigm of fake "reality", all the rocket nonsense & fake physics, look at the Pluto mission, they sent a one mega pix camera ffs, thats less than the first commercial digital camera !

They have undoubtedly been sending people to the moon & beyond for half a century, this excellent documentary was so good they murdered the guy who made it (Doc is sandwiched between a short intro & ending about this)

The Fluxliner, zero point back engineered fully operational UFO that if it went public would see the end of fossil fuels & the "petro dollar"

URL

Could they have parked the Apollo landers on the moon using a Fluxliner ?
Kozmik
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#1434 | Posted: 9 Aug 2015 18:00
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SPIRAL:
Could they have parked the Apollo landers on the moon using a Fluxliner ?

Just watching it now, and very interesting it is too. This sort of info is gradually becoming more common knowledge, and a good thing that is. I don't think people get the implications of free-energy too well just now. I wonder how RDH is getting on with his project?
Joe
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#1435 | Posted: 9 Aug 2015 23:12 | Edited by: Joe
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An interesting video, but I always find it strange when these types of videos says at the beginning or at the end, "Protected under the laws of the United States" (did James Allen sell the rights of his work to the American Government)? Why do they not want anyone to copy/distribute this material, and then they stick it on YouTube of all places!
Desdichado
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#1436 | Posted: 9 Aug 2015 23:38
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Joe:
An interesting video, but I always find it strange when these types of videos says at the beginning or at the end, "Protected under the laws of the United States" (did James Allen sell the rights of his work to the American Government)? Why do they not want anyone to copy/distribute this material, and then they stick it on YouTube of all places!

It may be something to do with First Amendment rights and may protect the filmmaker against a defamation suit. By the way, it's a lot harder to sue for defamation in the US than in the UK, where the courts are very friendly towards plaintiffs. Even those with a very tenuous connection to the UK.
Joe
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#1437 | Posted: 10 Aug 2015 13:03
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Desdichado:
It may be something to do with First Amendment rights and may protect the filmmaker against a defamation suit.

A fat lot of good that did for him - "James Allen was killed for making this documentary and getting too close to the truth".
Desdichado
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#1438 | Posted: 10 Aug 2015 22:27
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Joe:
A fat lot of good that did for him - "James Allen was killed for making this documentary and getting too close to the truth".

Yep, a piece a paper ain't much use in that regard.
Joe
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#1439 | Posted: 11 Aug 2015 20:14 | Edited by: Joe
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I have no doubt that exotic spacecrafts exist, but then why kill James Allen (the filmmaker) for exposing this material. And then later on, with Government approval, they put his video on YouTube for the whole world to see? This does not make any sense!

If indeed James Allen did disclose secret information and as a result was killed by the CIA or whom ever for doing so, then it could not have been for making this video. James Allen must have been killed for some other reason; possibly for real damning information he discovered and was about to go public with!
skipman
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#1440 | Posted: 7 Sep 2015 17:22
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