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THE MOON & SOLAR SYSTEM

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AllSpark
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#1261 | Posted: 30 Mar 2013 09:46
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Some of the first pictures from near the moon 1966.
Notice anything ?

Lots and Lots of stars !
But that can't be right can it ? I thought you couldn't see stars from the moon !
AllSpark
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#1262 | Posted: 30 Mar 2013 09:55
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mmotorway:
NASA (or whoever) managed to strike a deal with the aliens ( it's uncertain if it was the small greys or not) in order to allow the other Apollo missions to go to the moon...in order that the public wouldn't wonder why the programme had been abandoned after such a success with the first mission.

And exactly what did NASA use as a bargaining chip ?
What do they have that the EBE's don't ?
They already new what was up there from the 1966 orbital 'photographic' satelites.
You don't have to go to the moon to meet them, just get into low earth orbit.
As for the EBE's walking over to Armstrong for a chat..... pffft !
Armstrong no doubt has been struggling with himself for simply taking part in such a huge lie and probably was threatened to keep his mouth shut........ which is exactly what he did.
A horrible thing to do to such a nice guy IMO.
There is absolutely NO EVIDENCE of Apollo 11 ever landing on the moon. There IS however, ample evidence to prove that it DID NOT.
Kozmik
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#1263 | Posted: 30 Mar 2013 13:51
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AllSpark:
There is absolutely NO EVIDENCE of Apollo 11 ever landing on the moon. There IS however, ample evidence to prove that it DID NOT.

Shout it from the rooftops. And then maybe more people will wonder what else we've been lied to about.
AllSpark
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#1264 | Posted: 30 Mar 2013 15:14
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Kozmik:
what else we've been lied to about.

Evolution ?
Creation ?

Here are two WHOPPERS.
AllSpark
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#1265 | Posted: 30 Mar 2013 23:35
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Reffering to nordsees post in World Control /NWO of the William Cooper presentation of 'behold a pale horse', I found it interesting that the NASA photos from the Lunar orbiter [2:46:53] published in those NASA books that have since been taken out of circulation, contained the very photograph that Armstrong is reported as having seen himself ! Namely, the saucer on the edge of the crater.
Why can't i find those photos on the internet ?
Since the photographs were taken before Apollo 11 ever took off, are we expected to believe this to be a coincidence ? So is it reasonable to assume he was either 'messed with' ( as Richard says ) to believe that is what he saw, or...., he learnt the story in a briefing of deception.
The other part that stuck out for me was the part about Bud Hopkins being C.I.A. He was a close associate of John E Mack wasn't he ?
great post Nordsee ( my head hurts now )
mmotorway
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#1266 | Posted: 1 Apr 2013 02:18
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AllSpark:
And exactly what did NASA use as a bargaining chip ?

Probably disclosure itself. Seems that the EBE's don't want disclosure any more than the various governments do. ... The scenario goes that Armstrong and Aldrin were approached...made to feel extremely unwelcome (apparently they were absolutely terrified...because they had been told by NASA, etc, that EBE's didn't exist)...and told to sling their hook, "or else".

NASA's bargaining chip (as you call it) was more of a "put yourself in our position" situation. . "You want to operate in secrecy...then it might be best if the other Apollo missions weren't abandoned...it might alert the public to a problem"

If you believe that Eisenhower met aliens (as I do) and had an agreement with them, at Holloman AFB...then it figures that dialogue has continued since.
mmotorway
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#1267 | Posted: 1 Apr 2013 02:26 | Edited by: mmotorway
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AllSpark:
Evolution ?
Creation ?

Here are two WHOPPERS.

"Evolution" is only a theory, and has always been patented as a theory. As far as I know, no western governments have ever declared it a "fact, full stop". In western education it is always emphasised as a theory...therefore...no one is telling lies.
"Creation" on the other hand, is declared "the truth" by the various religions...about their various take on te story....so technically they can be accused of lying.
AllSpark
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#1268 | Posted: 1 Apr 2013 16:15
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mmotorway:
If you believe that Eisenhower met aliens (as I do) and had an agreement with them, at Holloman AFB...then it figures that dialogue has continued since.

This again is something where we are asked to believe other peoples testimony. One of the main problems with being human is the ability to lie !
Anyhoo, it is a very convincing meeting and all the pieces fit together nicely. However, i don't think anyone other than a very high ranking official who was standing there listening to what was discussed, can possibly be expected to be believed. The contents of such a meeting of this magnitude would surely be of the highest secrecy.

Ebe's have always interacted with small groups here on planet earth and have to my mind been responsible for great changes such as the domestication of plants and animals through genetic manipulation to name just two. Of course one cannot mention this without also referring to the changes in human beings as well. All of these have been proven without doubt through the evidence. ( here i would suggest reading Lloyd Pye's 'everything you know is wrong' if there is anyone who doubts the evidence.

RE: Evolution, Creation.
These are the two main choices put forward by mainstream for us to choose from. Very rarely are any other theories put forward with serious consideration. Sounds just like the political system doesn't it !
To make an informed decision about this question one must read extensively to arrive at any kind of rational decision. Something i'm afraid most people do not have the time or the inclination to do. IMO there are certain points from both to be taken on board. However the truth, is far more likely to be elswhere.
Kozmik
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#1269 | Posted: 1 Apr 2013 18:05
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AllSpark:
. He was a close associate of John E Mack wasn't he ?

Mack only became interested & started taking abductee patients after meeting Hopkins and becoming convinced there was something in it/
Kozmik
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#1270 | Posted: 1 Apr 2013 18:16
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Mack had the courage to talk publically about where his research had led. And it is mind blowing - UFOs & Aliens exist!! He was a shrink with 40 years experience when he first skeptically looked into the stories of Experiencers - and gradually came to the thinking that these people were not making it up and were not suffering mental illness. His colleagues were outraged and tried to get him sacked. They failed.
One for conspiracy theorists - he died during a visit to London when he was run over by a drunk driver...
dark star
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#1271 | Posted: 1 Apr 2013 18:17
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AllSpark:
Evolution ?
Creation ?

Here are two WHOPPERS.

They are both true Allspark
AllSpark
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#1272 | Posted: 1 Apr 2013 19:31
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Kozmik:
Mack only became interested & started taking abductee patients after meeting Hopkins and becoming convinced there was something in it/

So it would appear that if indeed Hopkins was C.I.A, he was keeping a close eye on Mack during his research. now now, it's all circumstantial .................... yeah right
Kozmik
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#1273 | Posted: 1 Apr 2013 19:44
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Who sez Hopkins is cia??
AllSpark
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#1274 | Posted: 1 Apr 2013 19:46
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Kozmik:
Who sez Hopkins is cia??

William Cooper says it in the video link posted by Nordsee
Kozmik
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#1275 | Posted: 1 Apr 2013 20:00
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Didn't watch all of it
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