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wensam
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#526 | Posted: 21 Dec 2014 15:52
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Joe:
You have to be careful what you read, Brand is out to promote himself in any way that he can - he is a bullshitter and has nothing to offer, but he does like to boast about his sex life etc like an adolescent school boy.

True. I went to see him at the Edinburgh festival years ago and he was keen to tell us all about his sex and drug addition, whilst at the same time scanning the audience for his next prey. It was then reported on local radio that he had been accused of date rape- nice eh!!

Joe:
he probably finds it very hard to even write a postcard!

Hahahahahaha :))
skipman
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#527 | Posted: 21 Dec 2014 22:28
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Desdichado:
I wouldn't have said so, based on what I've read but you never know.

I agree that he writes some very good stuff. There is some information that he reveals that make me wonder how he got hold of it. The articles that I have read do not have links.

I have read of his falling out with other truth seekers but no mention of where he gets his evidence from.

I may be being to cynical/paranoid in nursing the possibility that the police raid and arrests, could have been staged to give him credibility.

I hope I am wrong.
Desdichado
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#528 | Posted: 22 Dec 2014 19:45
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skipman:
I agree that he writes some very good stuff. There is some information that he reveals that make me wonder how he got hold of it. The articles that I have read do not have links.

I have read of his falling out with other truth seekers but no mention of where he gets his evidence from.

I may be being to cynical/paranoid in nursing the possibility that the police raid and arrests, could have been staged to give him credibility.

I hope I am wrong.

You're not the first to have mentioned this. He does cite some sources but often it's vague stuff. He cites a "full bird colonel" of the US Marine Corps who has written things about Obama's birth certificate. A bird colonel is a lieutenant-colonel, not a full colonel but that's nit-picking and the information mentioned in the article is patently obvious to anyone who knows anything about modern history. It's not earth-shattering but it does cast a pall over the way garbage is passed off as truth by today's media.

Your skepticism is well founded though. Like Agent Mulder of X-Files fame, "trust no-one" is a good motto to live by.
wensam
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#529 | Posted: 22 Dec 2014 23:56
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Desdichado:
Your skepticism is well founded though. Like Agent Mulder of X-Files fame, "trust no-one" is a good motto to live by.

Where i come from we call him 'Smoulder' :))
Desdichado
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#530 | Posted: 23 Dec 2014 20:24
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wensam:
Where i come from we call him 'Smoulder' :))

Scully is more my cup of tea.
wensam
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#531 | Posted: 24 Dec 2014 12:15
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Desdichado:
wensam:
Where i come from we call him 'Smoulder' :))

Scully is more my cup of tea.

Ahh yes, the sexual tension between the skeptic and the believer :)))

The intelligence agencies got that right! lol
daveywales
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#532 | Posted: 24 Dec 2014 18:40
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Russell Brand cannot be genuine because he has money he is playing to his own advantageous outcomes. BULLSHIT. All you have against him is conjucture. No provable points. When you bother to read his book, watch the News of the Trews on YouTube. You will see he is a genuine human being. Searching for and experiencing the love of God but not in a religious way.He is a lovely soul. Do your research before slagging off someone FFS.
Desdichado
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#533 | Posted: 24 Dec 2014 20:22
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daveywales:
When you bother to read his book, watch the News of the Trews on YouTube. You will see he is a genuine human being.

Dunno about the Trews. Brand's producer on that is one Johann Hari - a person whose acquaintance with the truth is tenuous at best. Hari has form for plagiarism and for playing all manner of fucked-up games with those who dared to criticize him (see Hari's alter ego, David Rose). To paraphrase Alex Ferguson, if Hari told me I had pasta on my plate, I'd look under the sauce to make sure.

Brand may well be as you describe him. I don't know. I haven't read his books nor have I ever met him. But his choice of Hari as producer is odd to say the least.
Kozmik
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#534 | Posted: 26 Dec 2014 10:56
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I'd rather watch 'The Trews' than anything coming from msm.
Joe
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#535 | Posted: 27 Dec 2014 19:56 | Edited by: Joe
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If Brand is really interested in truth instead of just talking about it, why then does he not get together with someone like Richard D. Hall (I'm sure he has heard of him)? Brand is very wealthy and has money to burn, he could put his money where his mouth is, instead of telling us how corrupt government are (when he is not boasting about his sex and drug life) as we already know, I may just then feel differently about him...

Rich does a much better job of getting the truth out (and is genuine) than the likes of Brand, but unfortunately, Rich has a lack of funds and can only do so much... Just think what Rich could achieve if he had just a fraction of the wealth that Brand has.
wensam
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#536 | Posted: 27 Dec 2014 20:37
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Well said Joe!
Desdichado
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#537 | Posted: 27 Dec 2014 21:31
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Kozmik:
I'd rather watch 'The Trews' than anything coming from msm.

My issue with Brand, in this context, is that it wasn't too long ago that earned his crust being part of the msm. Likewise Hari who was long employed at the not-so Independent, before he was tossed out for plagiarism.

I don't object to Brand re-inventing himself as a spokesman for the truth movement and maybe in time he'll be a great force for good but the ties that bind are not easily broken and were it not for the presence of Hari, I'd be a bit more trusting.

I second what Joe says about Richard who has done more to bring things to light from dark places than Brand has with his massive media presence. Maybe this will change, maybe not, but we'll see. I do plan to read his book as you suggested though it didn't turn up in my Christmas stocking this year. Got a copy of Tim Wallace-Murphy's book on symbolism instead.
wensam
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#538 | Posted: 27 Dec 2014 22:23
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Desdichado:
Got a copy of Tim Wallace-Murphy's book on symbolism instead.

I trust you will share your thoughts when you have read it Desdichado, I enjoy that kind if thing :)
Joe
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#539 | Posted: 28 Dec 2014 13:49 | Edited by: Joe
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I see Brand as mainstream media in disguise, he is like a modern day politician with a difference, with his God like hippy approach. Brand is trying to fit in first and is pretending to be one of us, like all politicians do, to become popular.

Everywhere you look; Brand is always in MSM somewhere, unlike Richard, who to my knowledge has never appeared on terrestrial TV, with the exception of Gary Heseltine once, on some pathetic "morning time TV show" (they have never asked him back for some reason)!
Joe
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#540 | Posted: 28 Dec 2014 14:01 | Edited by: Joe
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wensam:
I trust you will share your thoughts when you have read it Desdichado, I enjoy that kind if thing :)

If you cannot wait for Desdichado to finish reading "Tim Wallace-Murphy's book on symbolism", then you can see and hear the man himself talking: URL URL
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