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abitofgreen
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#1261 | Posted: 4 Feb 2012 00:43
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wensam:
How much made sense? Well that's the big question!

Maybe at that age there is less dogma that pollutes the feeling of what rings true intuitively!

Shamans have been sadly persecuted over the years and have so much wisdom to offer.
Kozmik
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#1262 | Posted: 4 Feb 2012 11:11
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@MK DON = Loved the Bill Hicks quote. I think it sums it all up quite nicely. Sure puts my life into perspective. Thanx, mate
wensam
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#1263 | Posted: 4 Feb 2012 11:25
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abitofgreen:
wensam:
How much made sense? Well that's the big question!

Maybe at that age there is less dogma that pollutes the feeling of what rings true intuitively!

Thanks, that's what I try to think. A couple of the boys ask really interesting questions when I explore religious ideas. Some children on the autistic spectrum show interest in this area too- through books and image, music and song. I find that intriguing, especially when some of them dont know what day of the week it is.
abitofgreen:
Shamans have been sadly persecuted over the years and have so much wisdom to offer.

When I was at art school we worked with a shaman called Zen who was mixed race european and navahoe. He took us away for a field trip to a place in Northumberland called Allenheads, supposed to be the highest village in England. We went through food deprivation, little sleep and went to the forest in the dead of night. He taught us how to run fast in high undergrowth and then sent us out to play. We found fireflies and we could hear him playing the flute, but no one ever saw him. Some of the girls claimed that in his presence they felt him in their heads, playing with them, try to seduce. This did not happen to me, he quietly observed me until I came to him with the recollection of a powerful dream. He told me I was traveling, his smile was amazing as he listened and laughed wisely. He also told me I had important genetics to pass on and that I was very fertile which has been medically proven and recorded. One day we were tickling for trout, I did not do this as I had a fish phobia, so I sat quietly by myself. He appeared from nowhere and threw a triangular stone from behind me which landed at my right side with a thud. There he was, smiling away and then walked off. Later that day he gave me round stone with a fertility rune symbol carved on it. He didn't say much, but I figured they were for fertility protection, activation. They are now in the house of a friend trying to conceive; I will pass them on to my daughter when the time is right.
Every single culture has Shamanic experience at it's roots, we have that knowledge or a belief inside us. TPTB dont want us anywhere near it so they demonised it, called them witch doctors and polluted their lands and their people. I wonder what Zen is doing now, he will be in his 60s now and even wiser I hope.
nordsee220
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#1264 | Posted: 18 Feb 2012 15:05 | Edited by: nordsee220
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wensam
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#1265 | Posted: 18 Feb 2012 15:28
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nordsee220:
Seems to endorse IRC's theory.

Yes, it does. The Olympics is another occult ritual being played out. Did you see Madonna at the Superbowl dressed as Ishtar/Minerva/ conglomerate priestess- a Goddess for the Illuminate. TPTB were tapping into the energy of the crowd; sporting events/music events all generate particular base energies in the human body. The date and time of the performance will have been important too. These public events are dubious however you look at it. Public events that mystify me are the mass gatherings of people who watch TV in public on massive screens- what is being beamed at them?
The silent war on humanity?
dreamkatcher
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#1266 | Posted: 3 Mar 2012 13:32
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Ian R Crane On 2012
www.youtube.com
Cut together from a 2 and a half hour talk by Ian R Crane in Brighton, UK on 26th January 2012. http://www.ianrcrane.co.uk/ http://www.youtube.com/ianrcrane M...
skipman
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#1267 | Posted: 11 Mar 2012 21:55
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I am sure you may have seen this compilation of events that predated 9/11 and 7/7,which suggest that the Illuminate gave vieled notice of their plans.
There is one programme that is missing from this video. There was a T.V. documentary about the London Underground. It talked to the people who work there about how the majority of the equipment is well past its best before date and that it is only a mater of time before a major catastrophe occurs. Would it not be a coicidence of biblical proportions if said catastrophe happened during the olympics?
http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/?p=44882
Joe
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#1268 | Posted: 12 Mar 2012 00:06
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You have found something quite disturbing there skipman. Especially when the fellow holds up a map in the film "2012" of the London Underground in his hands - is this Armageddon?
wensam
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#1269 | Posted: 1 Apr 2012 20:51
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Terry Boardman on 2012 and how Sitchin may have been hijacked- keep the night owls out of trouble
http://www.monju.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/2012.htm
skipman
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#1270 | Posted: 26 Apr 2012 07:10 | Edited by: skipman
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The NHS is calling for a massive increase in blood donations to make sure they have enough for the olympics. They say the event will make regular donors forget to go on their usual appointment times so they want as many as possible to donate before the games start.
It all sounds perfectly plausable does'nt it?
nordsee220
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#1271 | Posted: 29 Apr 2012 00:05
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The lads on ham radio are talking about the Gummint's rumours of sticking surface to air missiles on blocks of flats in London.

I sent them this info: (Apologies, there is rather a lot.)

http://www.911review.com/articles/anon/false_flag_perations.html

History of
American False Flag Operations

The leaders of smaller and less industrialised nations are not madmen (whatever the media claims). They also are generally better informed than their citizens. In a war an attacker does not need equal forces compared to the enemy. The attacker needs a 5-fold local superiority, or better. No one begins wars without very definite objectives and a quick victory in sight. If a war with more even military balance erupts, someone has been mislead and walked into a trap (usually arranged by third party).

After the American war of Independence (1776-1779), and an English challenge to that independence (1812-1814) no single nation has planned an offensive war against the USA. It is probable that a strong coalition of Anglo-French-led European nations planned to split the USA into two states through diplomatic recognition of the Confederate states possibly followed up by naval blockade embargoing the Union. At that time the British Empire was the strongest naval power, and the French the second strongest. The events led, however, into the Civil War (1860-1865) and due to the Russian intervention 1863 (1863) on the Union's side, those European plans were quietly abandoned.

Mexican wars 1819, 1846-48: Long series of operations, commencing with the annexion of Florida (1819) and followed by a declaration of independence of Texas from Mexico (1836). Provocative troop movements near the U.S. southern border caused an incident which led to war. (It is said the US built a fortification 150 km inside the Mexican border.) The annexation of Texas by the USA and the conquest of California, New Mexico, and nearby territories followed. Mexico had a weak government at that time, because after Napoleon conquered Spain (1809) their former colonies soon revolted. Mexico had been a colony of the Spanish kingdom but now they revolted and formed a republic. There were a series of revolts, not just one.

Spanish-American war, 1898: The surprise explosion of the battleship Maine at Havana, Cuba. 255 of the crew died. The Hearst press accused the Spanish, claiming that the explosion was caused by a remote-controlled mine. The USA declared war on Spain, and conquered Philippines, Guam and Cuba. Subsequent investigations revealed that the explosion originated inside the Maine and that it was either an accident, such as a coal explosion, or some type of time bomb inside the battleship. Divers investigating the shipwreck found that the armour plates of the ship were blown bending outwards, not inwards.

World War I, 1914-1918: A U-boat torpedo hit ocean liner Lusitania near Britain and some 1200 people, including 128 Americans, on board lost their lives. Subsequent investigations revealed that the major explosions were inside the Lusitania, as it was secretly transporting 6 million pounds of artillery shells and rifle ammunition, as well as other explosives on behalf of Morgan banking corporation to help their clients, the Britain and the France. It was against US laws to transport war materials and passengers in the same ship.

World War 2, 1939-1945: A U-boat torpedo hit the ocean liner Athenia near Britain with some 1100 passengers, of which 311 were Americans. The sea was calm and only 118 people on board lost their lives. The ship was sunk because it behaved like a military transport, blackened out and zigzagging. This incident wasn't enough to precipitate war, and the Germans also refused to be provoked by several American acts of war. Americans confiscated German merchant ships, and Americans started to support the British with various lend-lease items, US volunteer pilots joined the RAF and some RAF pilots were trained in the US, US gave the British 50 old but usable WW1 destroyers and 20 modern torpedo boats, tanks, light bombers, fighter aircraft like P-40s and so on. American destroyers also escorted the convoys bound to Britain, and attacked German U-boats even far away from those convoys. The US did not maintain a neutral stance attitude towards the warring nations.

The US naval intelligence, chief of Japan desk planned and suggested "8 insults", which should bring Japan into war with the US. President Roosevelt executed this plan immediately and also added some other insults, enraging the Japan. The most serious one was a total blockade of Japanese oil imports, as agreed between the Americans, British and the Dutch. FDR also declared an all-out embargo against the Japan and forbade them the use of Panama canal, impeding Japan's access to Venezuelan oil.

The Flying Tigers volunteer air group successfully fighting the Japanese in China with some 90 fairly modern P-40Bs was another effective provocation that is not generally acknowledged by historical accounts of World War 2, most of which fail to mention any air combat action prior to 7th December 1941. But at that time the Japanese had already had lost about 100 military aircraft, mostly bombers, to the Tigers. After Pearl Harbor these squadrons were some of the the hardest-hitting ones in the US service.

The attack on Pearl Harbour followed some 6 months later. Having broken the Japanese encryption codes, the Americans knew what was going to happen, when and where, but the president did not dispatch this information to Pearl Harbor. Americans even gave their friends the British 3 Magic decrypting machines which automatically opened encrypted Japanese military traffic. But this same information was not available to the commanders of Hawaii. The movement of the fleet was also visible in the very effective radio direction finding network. Japan had an alliance with Germany, and the Germans upheld their promises by declaring the war against the USA right after the Japanese declaration.

Two scapegoats, the navy commander Admiral Husband Kimmel, and the army commander Lt. General Walter Short were found incompetent and demoted as they were allowed to retire. Short died 1949 and Kimmel 1958. In 1995, the US Congress re-examined this decision and endorsed it. Then in 2000 some archive information came to light and the US Senate passed a resolution stating that both had served in Hawaii "competently and professionally". In 1941 they were denied vital information, and even on presidential orders purposefully mislead into believing that the Japanese feet could be expected from the southwest. These commanders have yet to be rehabilited by the Pentagon.

Korean War, 1950-1953: South Korean incursions (the Tiger regiment etc.) into North Korea (1949) led to contrary claims and into war. The cause of this war propably was covert action involving leaders of Taiwan, South Korea and the US military-industrial complex (John Foster Dulles has been mentioned as an organizer of the hostilities.) After the unpublished hostilities in 1949, the communist powers were strongly backing North Korea.

Chiang Kai Sek was being abandoned, isolated and falling prey to the powerful communist Chinese operations. The right-wing South Korean ruler was expected to loose the soon-to-be-elections. The American military-industrial complex went into high gear again, and huge government orders for equipment were flowing in.

The American-led UN forces had difficult times early in the war, but after sufficient forces arrived they advanced victoriously and penetrated deep into the North Korea. The strong Chino-Russian intervention into the war once again turned the tides, the Chinese with vast armies on ground, and the Soviets less visibly with large numbers of aircraft, nearly costing the UN forces the war.

Finally the front stabilised along the original 38th parallel armistice line. The war resulted in the death of 3 million Korean Chinese and the destruction of virtually all of the Korean cities, and left Taiwan in strong American protection and South Korea firmly in the hands of the right-wing president Syngman Rhee. Some 55,000 Americans lost their lives.

Vietnam War: "The Tonkin incident", where American destroyer Maddox was supposedly attacked twice by three North Vietnamese torpedo boats in 1964 in the Gulf of Tonkin never happened. What was happening at the time were aggressive South Vietnamese raids against the North in the same general area. Huge American presence wasn't decisive and President Nixon negotiated a "peace with honour" in 1973. This war was lost, when North Vietnam finally conquered South Vietnam in 1975.

Grenada invasion: The Grenadian leader, Maurice Bishop, favouring the left and having invited Cubans to help build the infrastructure including by extending the airport to accomodate long range Soviet aircraft, was deposed and executed in October 19, 1983. Six days later the US invaded, with the proffered reason that the American medical students studying in the Grenada were in danger due the Cuban presence. The new leader supported by the US favoured more traditional values and the right.

War on Drugs: The war was launched by Richard M Nixon sometime around June 17,1971. The drug problem was found bad within the army in Viet Nam around 1968 prompting action was required towards the end of the war. Nowadays it is estimated that the military will never win the War on Drugs. The street prices of illicit drugs did not change significantly in the USA despite the military action in foreign drug-producing countries. The Colombian experience, with local military supported by the US, has shown that peace is more important than war against drugs. The Colombians have successfully negotiated some 1000s of guerrilla fighters back into the society and out of jungle.

This "war" actually seems to be a pretext for military invasions into less developed countries, where covert "bad" drug lords on behalf of western intelligence services are producing drugs into US and first world ma
dreamkatcher
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#1272 | Posted: 29 Apr 2012 18:18
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skipman:
The NHS is calling for a massive increase in blood donations to make sure they have enough for the olympics.

skipman:
It all sounds perfectly plausable does'nt it?

Not really.


nordsee220:
History of
American False Flag Operations

Very interesting Nordsee. You seen the 33rd parallel info. Im, in no way, detracting from your info, which I think is important. dk

U.S. LED FORCES LAUNCH MILITARY DASH TO 33RD PARALLEL **

Resources to aid your Understanding. Lluminists believe that blood shed on or near 33rd parallel is ritually very powerful. This war joins the list of major historic events occurring at or near 33rd degree parallel.

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Welcome to 33rd Parallel TV **

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Masons and Mystery at the 33rd Parallel - HiddenMysteries ThE **

Masons and Mystery at the 33rd Parallel by Day Williams Copyright Day Williams 1999, 2000 (TXu 926-161) Published with permission for HiddenMysteries ThE~Magazine ...

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33rd Parallel - Home **



Skip to content. Events on or around the 33rd Parallel. What is the 33rd Parallel. This is the geographic line that runs along obvious the 33rd Longitude Line around the whole world. You ask what does this have to do with anything.

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U.S. LED FORCES LAUNCH MILITARY DASH TO 33RD PARALLEL -- BAGHDAD, IRAQ! *

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The 33rd Parallel - Masonic Line of Death for Psychic Energy *
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MK_DON
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#1273 | Posted: 30 Apr 2012 13:47
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/other_sports/olympics_2012/4682251.stm
How much do you trust our government... right now I am sitting at 0%

Olympic Park on ex-nuclear site
Tories say they did not raise the nuclear reactor issue earlier in case it damaged the capital's bid.
skipman
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#1274 | Posted: 30 Apr 2012 17:02
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MK_DON:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/other_sports/olympics_2012/4682251.stm

Come up as page not found
dreamkatcher
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#1275 | Posted: 30 Apr 2012 18:03
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skipman:
Come up as page not found

Opened straight away for me, but I cant get links. dk


Last Updated: Thursday, 14 July 2005, 12:15 GMT 13:15 UK
Olympic Park on ex-nuclear site

Olympic Park
In profile: London's plans
London 2012 officials have insisted there is no health risk after learning part of the planned Olympic Park is on the site of a former nuclear reactor.

Conservative politicians have called for a fresh survey at the site in East London's Lower Lea Valley.

But a London 2012 spokesman said the London Development Agency had already carried out a full environmental impact assessment.

"It showed no evidence of any nuclear contamination," said the spokesman.

Details of the reactor were revealed by a Conservative member of the London Assembly at an assembly meeting on Wednesday where 2012 team spokesman Mike Lee was questioned about the Olympics.

Bob Blackman, the Tory economic development spokesman, said: "During this process, officers at the bid team have been very blase about the problems of contamination in the Lower Lea Valley, but they must take this matter seriously.

NUCLEAR REACTOR FACTS
Location: Main college campus, Mile End, then moved to Marshgate Lane. Decommissioned 1982
Reactor: Was used for undergraduate experiments and postgraduate projects
Training: One of three centres which trained people for work at nuclear power stations. Others were Navy bases at Greenwich and near Ascot
"We have got a huge amount of building to do and this work cannot even start until we clean the site up."

It is understood bid officials did not know about the reactor until Mr Blackman raised the issue.

But they are satisfied the area was fully decontaminated 23 years ago when the reactor was decommissioned.

The reactor was used by Queen Mary College's department of nuclear engineering, which is now defunct, until 1982.

In a statement, the college said: "The reactor was exceptionally small; the core was the size of a bucket and produced virtually no energy.

"Decommissioning staff were able to stand inside the reactor void with no protective clothing."

There are absolutely no ongoing health implications of the decommissioned reactor
College statement
London beat four cities to win the right to host the Games, and its bid won cross-party support.

Tories say they did not raise the nuclear reactor issue earlier in case it damaged the capital's bid.

And Mr Blackman believes a fresh survey of the site will help to resolve the matter.

But London 2012 insiders feel he is being "mischievous", and officials have already pledged to carry out any clean-up work - where it is needed - on former industrial sites.

Although many sports fans and Londoners welcome the Games being held in London, there has been opposition.

Businesses at Marshgate Lane in Newham, where the new Olympic Stadium will be built, have been unhappy with relocation plans.

Report: Businesses protest over Olympics
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