RICHPLANET.NET FORUM : WE ARE NOT ADMITTING NEW MEMBERS AT THIS POINT IN TIME.  THIS IS DUE TO PREVIOUS TROLLS ATTACKING THE FORUM.<br>
There is still no decision on whether new members will be added.  This can only happen when suitable moderators are in place, who are not easy to find for obvious reasons. www.richplanet.net community built on miniBB / RICHPLANET.NET FORUM : WE ARE NOT ADMITTING NEW MEMBERS AT THIS POINT IN TIME. THIS IS DUE TO PREVIOUS TROLLS ATTACKING THE FORUM.
There is still no decision on whether new members will be added. This can only happen when suitable moderators are in place, who are not easy to find for obvious reasons.
/

2012

 Page:  ««  1  2  ...  7  8  9  10  11  ...  117  118  »» 
CTRILEY
Member
#121 | Posted: 24 Jun 2009 18:34
Reply 
From first impression I 'd say.

1) If you look at certain mythologies there's evidence of civilsations existng before the ice -age. A good example is that of Yima who after learning of "destructive frost" heading towards his lands had built a series of underground cities built in Derinkuyu, Turkey, to house his people. During the last ice age the ice grew at the expense of the sea level. Whilst the difference in temperature meant people lived in areas which became subverged when the ice age endedand sea levels rose again. Thus such constructions built 5,000 years prior the first pyramid at saqqara would be consistant with that. Whilst the ending of the ice age explains many of the myths of submerged civilisations.

The ice age mention that any advanced knowledge was lost and people had to go to hunter gathering again, until around 4,000 BC when people started once again living in settled communities eventually leading to the birth of cvilisation. The memory of which survives as the story of the Garden Of Eden.

2) Without developing the ability to build vertically the only way to build tall structures is by one level on top of another as you'd do with a step pyramid.

3) Without the ability to cut stone true the only way is to pound them into shape with rocks. This is how the Incas and th epeople of Easter Iselns built their constructions, because of the remains of massive slabs which were abondoned half finished.

4) Just one people make a discovery, doesn't that similar is not developed elsewhere by a people who have had no contact with the other. For example the wheel developed on both sides of the Atlantic ocean, but it didn't take off in the Americas because unlike the people of the old world they never invented an axle.

What are your thoughts?
monkeyboy
Member
#122 | Posted: 24 Jun 2009 19:02
Reply 
as far as i know the last ice age started to wain about 20,000 years ago so all this was after the ice age so i don`t see how you came to your theory. also if you think they calved all those straight edges by bashing them with a stone? im sorry you lost me then.
telecaster
Member
#123 | Posted: 24 Jun 2009 19:41
Reply 
This subject is very complex and I will get one if
I think about it any more ! (from a Christmas cracker)
T.
monkeyboy
Member
#124 | Posted: 8 Jul 2009 23:40
Reply 
here is an interesting vid :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6MIMciT_lNA
telecaster
Member
#125 | Posted: 9 Jul 2009 14:38
Reply 
Sounds right to me,would explain a lot of things MB.
Did you hear the latest news from Colin Andrews ?
That crop circle that appeared next to Silbury Hill, an
off duty police officer caught 3 tall beings dressed in
white in the circle. He shouted at them but they took
off at great speed. One forum member on ATS has
called them "Nephilim" which ties in to your above
video. More synchronicity !
T.
CTRILEY
Member
#126 | Posted: 9 Jul 2009 15:06
Reply 
telecaster:
ounds right to me,would explain a lot of things MB.
Did you hear the latest news from Colin Andrews ?
That crop circle that appeared next to Silbury Hill, an
off duty police officer caught 3 tall beings dressed in
white in the circle. He shouted at them but they took
off at great speed. One forum member on ATS has
called them "Nephilim" which ties in to your above
video. More synchronicity !
T.

Sure these weren't New Age druids?
dark star
Member
#127 | Posted: 9 Jul 2009 18:47
Reply 
Bloody druids ruin everything !!!
telecaster
Member
#128 | Posted: 9 Jul 2009 23:00
Reply 
Colin Andrews is back in the UK in August to give us
the details.
Bet Gary Heseltine knows something !
T.
monkeyboy
Member
#129 | Posted: 13 Jul 2009 14:28
Reply 
http://www.allnewsweb.com/page6986987.php

The Mandaeans: Secret UFO and extraterrestrial wisdom

Michael Cohen m.cohen@allnewsweb.com

With all the talk about Nibiru, 2012 and UFOs it is amazing that many doing the talking have never heard of the Mandaeans, really amazing. It is like knowing all about Jesus and never having heard of the Jews. In fact it is amazing that Jews, Muslims and Christians have hardly heard of these people, considering they, in all likelihood, are the possessors of the religion and heritage that gave birth to all of the three monotheistic religions and they are still around to tell their story even if no one wants to hear it. So unknown is this grouping that even spell-check on Microsoft Word doesn't recognise their name: yet none of this should diminish their incredible importance.

So who are the Mandaeans? Firstly there are about fifty thousand of them left in the world. Most of them lived in Iraq as a cohesive group for over four thousand years until America decided to go in to that country and help create the chaos that now engulfs the place. Ironically, Saddam Hussein was a great friend of theirs and protected them. Bizarrely Saddam understood their immense importance while the west clearly didn't.
In the aftermath of the invasion of Iraq it was said that since Saddam Hussein was no longer around to protect them they would be safer outside their ancestral land, the land they have lived in for least four thousand years. The vast majority left for Syria and Jordan, allegedly for this reason. All of those that were able to moved much further away. In what must have been one of history's crassest shows of lack of humanity and ignorance, those who made the initial mistake of heading to Australia were branded as serious terror threats and then locked up for years in barbaric detention centres. Some Mandaeans attempted suicide in this horrific situation, many were psychologically scarred for life by these events.

Strange as the Mandaeans are vegetarians and pacifists par excellence. There exists no record of any Mandaean committing the crime of murder for two thousand years. Perhaps that was Australia's way of thanking the group for the entire range of 'Judeo-Christian' beliefs that supposedly underpin our society.
Anyway, let 's move on to the history and beliefs of the Mandaeans: Much confusion and ignorance exists regarding the Mandaeans and their history.

The orientalist E.S Drower inaccurately listed their beliefs as the following:

1. A supreme formless Entity, the expression of which in time and space is creation of spiritual, etheric, and material worlds and beings.
2. Dualism: a cosmic Father and Mother, Light and Darkness, Right and Left, syzygy in cosmic and microcosmic form.
3. As a feature of this dualism, counter-types, a world of ideas.
4. The soul is portrayed as an exile, a captive: her home and origin being the supreme Entity to which she eventually returns.
5. Planets and stars influence fate and human beings, and are also places of detention after death.
6. A saviour spirit or saviour spirits which assist the soul on her journey through life and after it to 'worlds of light'.
7. A cult-language of symbol and metaphor. Ideas and qualities are personified.
8. 'Mysteries', i.e. sacraments to aid and purify the soul, to ensure her rebirth into a spiritual body, and her ascent from the world of matter.
9. Great secrecy is enjoined upon initiates; full explanation of 1, 2, and 8 being reserved for those considered able to understand and preserve the gnosis.

According to Wikipedia:

'Mandaeans believe in marriage and procreation, and in the importance of leading an ethical and moral lifestyle in this world, placing a high priority upon family life. Consequently, Mandaeans do not practice celibacy or asceticism. Mandaeans will, however, abstain from strong drink and red meat. They look forward to a future liberated from the influence of the Torah, which they regard as evil in origin.'
The key holy book of the Mandaeans is known as the Ginza Rabba.

The above-mentioned beliefs, however, by no means represent the inner core of their belief system and a mere glimpse into the Mandaean holy books will well confirm this. Mandaeans fully understood the boundaries of tolerance of the 'great religions' and would only reveal to outsiders a version of their faith that would ensure the safety and survival of the group.

For hundreds of years the Mandaeans have pretended to be 'Christians of St John' in order to avoid persecution by both Christian and Islamic rulers as a pre-Biblical and pre-Koranic religion. This name refers to the fact that the group does in fact regard St John as a prophet, the only post-Abrahamic Judeo-Christian figure they do revere, seemingly due to his respect for and use of water and baptism as means of achieving purity (Immersing oneself in running water is a key Mandaean religious activity): Jesus however is in fact regarded as a false messiah and even a demon. In fact as mentioned above, the Mandaeans regard all Biblical characters starting with Abraham and beyond as rather evil. They do however revere Adam, Shem, Noah and even Abraham's father the Idol maker Terach as holy men.

Agenda driven Christian scholars have always claimed the group are a Gnostic offshoot of Second Temple era Judaism, so as not to shake or challenge the foundations of Christianity. This explanation doesn't wash for many reasons and is clearly false.
Firstly, it is unlikely that a religion based on Judaism would reject all biblical prophets from Abraham and beyond or have as one of its central tenets the belief that the Torah derives from an evil source and when the messianic era arrives the world will be washed of it's infuence. The language the Mandaeans speak has been confirmed as being one of purest linguistic descendants of the ancient Chaldean-Babylonian tongue. The obvious importance of water and the requirement to live near running water that springs from the ground are an indication of the Mandaeans true Sumerian lineage. Are these people no less than the descendants of the very priests of the most ancient of all faiths?

The Mandaeans themselves guard their lineage fanatically: in order to be part of the group all ancestors must be Mandaeans, and no exceptions are allowed. The community accept no converts and a Mandaean must marry another Mandaean with all four grandparents and all eight great-grandparents being Mandaeans and so forth. This has obviously hampered the growth of the group in terms of numbers.

While in the past the Mandaeans chose survival and were happy for outsiders to be ignorant of their proud heritage, now however Mandaeans are more likely to proudly tell the world who they really are: The direct descendants in terms of culture, religion and genetics of the ancient Babylonians and the Sumerians before them! The main Mandaean website www.mandaeanunion.org says no less.
So what do the Mandaeans really believe in more specifically and how is this relevant to UFO's and Nibiru?

Consider this well known Mandaean legend of the Ginza Rabba:

Once the melki and the 'uthri, twelve thousand of
them, wished to see Melek Ziwa (the Light King), the
great god of all, for each had a question to ask about the
created world, such as 'Why are the trees green ?' 'Why
does this happen, and why that?' and so on. Each one of
them had a question. They mounted vehicles like ships
that moved by electrum and they rose from Awathur
until they reached the highest heaven. When they had
attained the highest heaven, a blinding light fell upon
them, and they could not gaze, but fell on their faces.
Only Hiwel Ziwa, who was with them, remained upright.

The Mandaeans still maintain most of the classical Babylonian beliefs such as those regarding Enuma Elish and the significance of the planet Nibiru. The Mandaeans worship a multitude of Gods corresponding to ancient Babylonian ideas of divinity. Such Gods include the well known Marduk, Anu, Enlil and Enki as well as the less known mother goddess Ru Ha (associated by the Mandaeans with the biblical God Jehovah) . Here we have a cosmogony derived from the ancient Sumerians, and we may regard the Mandaeans as the modern representatives of the faith of Abzu and Eridu.

The beliefs of the Mandaeans are clearly not based on Judaism but rather the other way around. They mirror those of the ancient Babylonians and form the basis of much of the legends found in the book of Genesis: The creation story, Adam and Eve, Noah's ark and the tower of Babel all spring from the Mandaean faith. While the concept of the divine might differ, the basic ideas of this ancient faith clearly influenced Abraham and the development of early Judaism. The ethical aspect of the religion differs little from the morality of the Ten Commandments. Much of the Jewish Kabbalah is remarkably similar to Mandaean mysticism.

Not surprisingly astrology plays a very big part of the faith and culture and by all accounts the Mandaeans have inherited the Sumerian traditions in this respect: The movements of stars and planets are regarded as having a major influence on our lives. Little is known of the Mandaean attitudes towards 2012, however of massive interest is the fact that the entire community recently uprooted and left its homeland...of four thousand years. This despite assurances by the current Iraqi government that the group will be protected from enemies.

This seems strange as the group has religiously remained the area they regard as the earth's navel, once known as Mesopotamia, for 4000 years and the region has seen more than its fair share of strife and war over the millennia and the current conflict would hardly stand out in this respect. All that were able have gone to either far-flung Canada or Australia. Why have these rather isolated areas been chosen? Do the true inheritors of Sumerian astrology know something about a coming Middle Eastern c
monkeyboy
Member
#130 | Posted: 13 Jul 2009 14:36
Reply 
atastrophe?

The Mandaeans also believe in Great Spirit Men that came from the stars to teach their ancient Sumerian ancestors the arts of civilization. These are, of course, the Annunaki. Fascinatingly ancient Sumerian engravings depict Annunaki arriving on earth in UFO like craft. It is believed that the Mandaeans today are waiting for the Annunaki's imminent return. These inheritors of the most ancient of astrological knowledge might well have 2012 marked as the year their ancient allies return from the stars and reward them for millennia of holding the torch of faith and knowledge, longer than any other group on earth.

So do the Mandaeans possess secret knowledge of the UFO phenomena and of a coming open alien presence on earth? Are they preparing for a cataclysmic catastrophe in the year 2012?
monkeyboy
Member
#131 | Posted: 13 Jul 2009 14:41
Reply 
i wathched this the other day it didn`t make a lot of sense till i read the above :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CvNAL8RgoMI&feature=related
monkeyboy
Member
#132 | Posted: 13 Jul 2009 16:18 | Edited by: monkeyboy
Reply 
dark star
Member
#133 | Posted: 13 Jul 2009 18:30
Reply 
Struth !!! The plot thickens.
10 seconds to midnite and counting,every thing seems to be funneling in towards 2012.
telecaster
Member
#134 | Posted: 13 Jul 2009 20:54
Reply 
If anything big happens in 2012, I`ll eat my guitar !
T.
dark star
Member
#135 | Posted: 13 Jul 2009 21:26
Reply 
Would you like salt & pepper?
 Page:  ««  1  2  ...  7  8  9  10  11  ...  117  118  »» 
Your reply
Bold Style  Italic Style  Image Link  URL Link 

   
» Username  » Password 
Only registered users are allowed to post here. Please enter your login/password details upon posting a message, or sign up first
TO JOIN THIS FORUM: WE ARE NOT ADMITTING NEW MEMBERS AT THIS POINT IN TIME. THIS IS DUE TO PREVIOUS TROLLS ATTACKING THE FORUM.
We may be considering adding new members on a "block basis". We will collect new member requests and then introduce a new batch. The new memebrs will be identifiable by a prefix in their username as a "new member". Anyone considered to be trolling or causing trouble will be immedialtey removed. To be put on the list please email richard@richplanet.net AND GIVE YOUR US NAME, A USERNAME, PASSWORD. I would imagine a new batch of new members will be added in January 2012.
 

Forums are powered by miniBB®