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dark star
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#76 | Posted: 22 Jun 2009 06:23
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CTRILEY:
The bible codes is like the De Vinci Code (don't get me started on that). Basically both are a pile of rubbish.

In order for the code to work, then everyone involved it he various books would actually have to be in on it. Changes within the text occur as the nature of languge changes, thus changing the nature of the code. Whilst similar results were obtained when the same method was applied to other books.

Do some research,every thing you said is wrong.
CTRILEY
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#77 | Posted: 22 Jun 2009 13:04 | Edited by: CTRILEY
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Wrong about what, one or both?
telecaster
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#78 | Posted: 22 Jun 2009 13:07
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You can find some sort of code in anything.
Even in my plan !
T.
telecaster
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#79 | Posted: 22 Jun 2009 13:10
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I`m sure CTRILEY is code for something.
T.
dark star
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#80 | Posted: 22 Jun 2009 13:54
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CTRILEY:
What about either one or both?

Sorry if my earlier post seemed rude,I could have put it better.Yes, the D code is fiction.
You cannot compare the B code with the D code,60 years ago Rabbi HMD Weissmandell first noticed that if he skipped the first 50 letters in Genesis, then another 50 and so on it spelled "Torah".The Torah is the first 5 books of the old testament which was given to Moses on Mt Sinai 3300 years ago by "God"[I think Mt Sinai has a conection with "The Watchers"]. Rabbi Weissmandell also found other strange combinations,this was the start.Now remember that the B code only works in original Hebrew as given to Moses,in translation it is changed.The Jewish scribes responsible for copying the Torah had a passion for perfection and it sometimes took YEARS to complete one copy, they we bound by over 20 strict rules,this going all the way back to Moses.
In 1979 NSA code breaker Harold Gans,who had spent his life cracking codes and is a statistician and mathmatition set out to discredit the code.As far as he was concerned it was a foregone conclusion.......he proved himself wrong.
In 1996 Dr Eliylhu Rips[atheist and top mathmatition], Prof.D.Michealson[code researcher] and a few other boffins try same thing........ all became convinced beyond any dought that a code exists.
Other interesting facts are -- " The distinction between past, present and future are only an illusion"......Einstein
Sir Isaac Newton wrote over 1000,000 words by his own hand, most of them concerned esoteric theology.
Lets not forget who these people were.As i said in aprevious post the implications of this would be huge,whatever gave Moses the Torah is an intelligence far beyond our understanding,the codes are very,very complex.
Again CIRILEY please accept my apologies if my previous post seemmed rude,I,d just got up.
dark star
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#81 | Posted: 22 Jun 2009 14:03
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Read" The truth behind the Bible code" by Dr Jeffrey Satinover and then research the info. I have touched on with an open and neutral mind,you never know T. you might wrong and your plan scuppered !
CTRILEY
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#82 | Posted: 22 Jun 2009 14:13 | Edited by: CTRILEY
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telecaster:
I`m sure CTRILEY is code for something

My surname is an Anglicised form of an Irish name. In the Middle Irish it would have being spelt UÍ Raghallaigh, in the Late Irish it became ÓRaghallaigh. After the forced Anglicisation of Irish in the 17th Century it was spelt under various versions such as ÓReilly, ÓRilley, ÓRealley, ÓRiley, ÓReily, Orailly, ÓRyley, ÓReileigh, ÓReiley, ÓReely, etc., Whilst during the 19th Century many Irish migrants dropped the "Ó" prefix to make their names sound more English, just to gain employment.

So for example if my surname was part of some code, then in order for that code to remain intact every name within it must remain the same for the code to work. The also applies to the Bible, for example:

1) Judism was largely influenced By Atenism found by Akhenaten. This is reflected by the Hebrew word `Adonai' meaning `My Lord' and when the pronoun `ai' (meaning `my or `mine') is removed the word remaining is `Adon' meaning `Lord'. When translating between Egyptian and Hebrew the Egyptian `t' becomes `d' and `e' becomes `o', making `Adon' the Hebrew word for `Aten'.

2) Although the first five books of the Torah/Bible are credited to Moses they weren't written by him. As the Torah didn't start to take place until after the enslavement of the Isrealites in Babylon. Genesis begins with references to the seven generations of the Babylonian Gods (this is reflected by the fact that Genesis 1:26 is written in the plural not the singular). Here there were also introduced to the story of Adam and Lilith which became Adam and Eve, and is based upon events within the 4000 BC when people made on of the first attempts at civilisation. The Babylonian myth of Uta-Napishtim became the Noah and the flood, and is based upon the memory of the breaking of the Bosporus portal in 5500 BC. Whlst the Tower of Babel is based upon the great temple towers built in the precincts of Eridu and Uruk during the late Uruk period of 2900 BC.

3) God took a rip from Adam and created women. He didn't the correct word is "ríp" meaning half. It's also an error within translation which has it that Moses crossed the red seas, where according the oldest version he actually crossed the reed sea.

4) During the Exodus the Isrealites lived in the City of Avaris, but the Bible gives it as the City of Pi-Ramesse (founded by Ramesses over 150 years the Exodus), because that was how it was know at the time the Torah was written. Whilst the Exodus took place in 1500 BC as events within it relate directly to the destruction of the Island of Thera (the true basis for Plato's Atlantis).

5) Such was Jewish scribes passion for perfection that they purposely ignored the fact that slavery never existed within Ancient Egypt. They forgot mention that when the Isrealites marched around the city of walls of Jericho to bring the walls down, according to archeology not was the city empty at the time, but the walls had been brought down by an earthquake which occured 200 years earlier. They forgot to mention that when the Egyptians looted Jerusalem, Shoshenq I ruled Egypt but his name was purposely distorted to `Shishak', meaning "one who assaults", so as to give his name a derogatry meaning.

6) The Jewish faith only truly became a monotheology after the 6th Century BC. So all references to God having a wife were removed.

The point is that even within the Torah, Bible differences exists because doctrine, langauge, spelling and names all change overtime. Events are altered to suit a particular version of events. In doing so the text also changes and with it any code based on such a text also changes. Whilst in order for the code to work everyone who wrote each book would have to be in on the code.
telecaster
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#83 | Posted: 22 Jun 2009 14:50
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Blimey O`RILEY !
Well, that`s that then.
Have we anything left to believe in ?
T.
telecaster
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#84 | Posted: 22 Jun 2009 14:59
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I still think that the Abydos inscriptions are proof of
our past. You can`t deny what they are.
The Andromedans did say Disclosure would come
after a find by Archaeologists/science.
T.
CTRILEY
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#85 | Posted: 22 Jun 2009 15:02 | Edited by: CTRILEY
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telecaster:
Blimey O`RILEY !
Well, that`s that then.
Have we anything left to believe in ?
T.

Well as any computer programmer will tell you "God is real, unless declared an Integer". But if it wasn't for Christian Missioniries we'd all be worshipping either the Gods of the Celtic or the Germanic races.
telecaster
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#86 | Posted: 22 Jun 2009 15:13
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The Christians have alot to answer for !
Especially those Conquistadors.
I wonder what was in that Istanbul Library
before it was burned down !
T.
CTRILEY
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#87 | Posted: 22 Jun 2009 17:10 | Edited by: CTRILEY
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telecaster:
The Christians have alot to answer for !
Especially those Conquistadors.
I wonder what was in that Istanbul Library
before it was burned down !

You've heard of Homer's Illiad and the Odyssey, but these they only remaining books of an epic series know as the Trojan Cycle telling the siege of Troy. It is probably down to bruning libraries that works such as these have been lost FOREVER.

Whilst it's said that if the Library at Alexander hadn't been burnt down people would have been on the moon by 1066. Evidence of how advanced people were, there is in Cairo musuem is an artifact which is a rudimentary battery over 2000 years old.

Wise people read books, but only morons burn them.
telecaster
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#88 | Posted: 22 Jun 2009 18:35
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In future it should be "wise men hide books and hard drives" !
Isn`t it great that the internet can`t be stopped ?
Mind you, you have to wade through some crap to get the prize.
I don`t like most of the latest vids and pics....they look too
photoshopped. You can`t win can you ? Take a decent pic and
it`s automatically accused of tampering. But that`s what they
look like. There was a bloke on "Esoteria" the other day who
saw a ufo and was dis-heartened because it looked like a
jellyfish and he`d expected something more metallic !
The mind boggles at what we could`ve had about the libraries.
T.
dark star
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#89 | Posted: 22 Jun 2009 18:48
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CTRILEY:
The point is that even within the Torah, Bible differences exists because doctrine, langauge, spelling and names all change overtime. In doing so the text also changes and with it any code based on such a text also changes. Whilst in order for the code to work everyone who wrote each book would have to be in on the code.

So, in essence there are 2 conclusions to this
A.If you are right then there is no code and Dr Rips, prof. Michealson and Harold Gans together with there computers are imagining things and their years of research a waste of time.
B.They are right and your research is wrong.
Rabbi Weissmandell findings constitute a code which is undeniably there,he found dozens of skip sequence words,they are,nt just chance occurences,doesn,t this alone undermine all the points you have put together?
dark star
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#90 | Posted: 22 Jun 2009 19:16
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CTRILEY:
Such was Jewish scribes passion for perfection that they purposely ignored the fact that slavery never existed within Ancient Egypt. They forgot mention that when the Isrealites marched around the city of walls of Jericho to bring the walls down, according to archeology not was the city empty at the time, but the walls had been brought down by an earthquake which occured 200 years earlier. They forgot to mention that when the Egyptians looted Jerusalem, Shoshenq I ruled Egypt but his name was purposely distorted to `Shishak', meaning "one who assaults", so as to give his name a derogatry meaning.

Passion for perfection regards the Torah and in any case you have Jewish scribes and Jewish historians confussed.
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