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ABDUCTION & ANIMAL/HUMAN MUTILATION

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zenrev
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#316 | Posted: 17 Oct 2011 12:41
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AllSpark:
I have a question.
That was taped 14 years ago.
Apart from alien implants, what have we discovered in those 14 years ?

Hi Allspark,

that is also a good question, and one which I will toddle off and research! If their has been conclusive evidence found(and I believe their has been)it will probably have found its way to some dark and secure place. So for the time being we have to settle for the abductees testimonies, and one place where I have found them is here at AMMACH on You Tube:-

URL

Some of the abductee accounts resonated with me, whilst some didn't. Very interesting though.

I have come into contact with a human looking alien who I believe is working for the "opposition", one of his roles is to locate what I call true psychics and monitor them. Not only with psychics though, but also with those involved with the UFO phenomena. I'm unable to say too much for obvious reasons.

We have had dealings with ET's for some time now, and unfortunately we've encountered negative ET's. But we view life as a school and some days are good and others not so!

This year I have been drawn back to study the vast arena of the UFO field, including abductions, and one sight which has some excellent information is this:-

URL

I am reading the free ebook(download from the site)which is fascinating, and I've learnt a heck of a lot from this wonderful lady! Some folk may say its far fetched and nonesense - not me though!

I believe that from birth we are conditioned to think inside the box, and this is enforced when we go to school(to be indoctrinated). Luckily I have always been an outside the box thinker! At school I gave the teachers a hard time! I wasn't rude I just questioned what they said when I thought something was not right! Although I was consistently sent out of religious education!!!

Anyway, now I'm an old hippy, and have more questions!

So far this year we have seen around 10 UFO's!
zenrev
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#317 | Posted: 18 Oct 2011 01:12
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Just watched an excellent presentation by Mary Rodwell of ACERN - URL.

She discusses many areas of the abduction field from abductees artwork(including that of a 2 year old!!!)- which is stunning, implants, ET Language, spirituality and more!

Mary Rodwell - The Reality of Contact Part 1

URL

Mary is now my number 1 researcher!
dreamkatcher
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#318 | Posted: 18 Oct 2011 08:28
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[quote=zenrev]I believe that from birth we are conditioned to think inside the box, and this is enforced when we go to school(to be indoctrinated). Luckily I have always been an outside the box thinker! At school I gave the teachers a hard time! I wasn't rude I just questioned what they said when I thought something was not right! Although I was consistently sent out of religious education!!![
/quote]


Me too zenrev. In fact it is still happening in my family 3 generations later, lol. dk
zenrev
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#319 | Posted: 18 Oct 2011 13:16
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DK,

a good friend of mine is a headmaster and when I talk about chemtrails and aspartame he looks bemused! He is well plugged into the Matrix! Although after months of badgering he says he will watch a conspiracy doc as long as its not too long!!!

So there is hope!!!
skipman
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#320 | Posted: 18 Oct 2011 16:04
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Re the above two posts,the government and its lackies are aware of the internet drawing children away from their MSN doctination so here is their answer.
http://www.prisonplanet.com/government-front-group-vows-to-abolish-critical-thinking. html
MK_DON
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#321 | Posted: 18 Oct 2011 17:25
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skipman:
Re the above two posts,the government and its lackies are aware of the internet drawing children away from their MSN doctination so here is their answer.

I also read that article this avo. which was interesting timing given I flicked through Edward De Bono's - 'Lateral Thinking for Management' @ the weekend - http://www.poeticmind.co.uk/research/key-lessons-from-edward-de-bono-parallel-thinkin g-from-socratic-to-de-bono-thinking-short-summary-gil-dekel-phd/
Having received my copy of 'Left in the Dark' http://leftinthedark.org.uk/book yesterday
I guess all that i need to do now is train to become a teacher
and I can bring down the system from within :o)
dreamkatcher
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#322 | Posted: 18 Oct 2011 17:39
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I must find time to check these links out but have been other places since Friday. My youngest daughter had an accident whilst riding one of her Boss' Hunters. She can remember getting one foot in the stirrup & then nothing until finding herself looking for the horse. She was bleeding badly from the forehead from a massive gash, which was very deep. Her ribs & hip hurt too & the back of her head. She couldnt mount the horse again as disorientated, so led him back from the hill. The local Dr. got another Dr. to look at her, & a nurse & a paramedic & none could stem the bleeding, etc. I got a call to take her to hospital. so drove over 200 miles, got her sorted & back home safe. 5 days later & she still cant remember exactly what happened & other things are hard to remember. The GPs & hospital arent particularly worried or even interested. Says it all, eh? The NHS has a lot to answer for!

dk
skipman
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#323 | Posted: 18 Oct 2011 20:45
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Hope your daughter makes a good recovery
zenrev
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#324 | Posted: 18 Oct 2011 21:38
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skipman:
Hope your daughter makes a good recovery

+ 1

healing being sent.
dreamkatcher
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#325 | Posted: 18 Oct 2011 23:00
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skipman:
Hope your daughter makes a good recovery

zenrev:
healing being sent.

Hazel is very tough. The hospital sent her home without even an x-ray. I would have understood it if it was busy, but there was only us in A & E for over an hour. The lack of memory bothers me though, even though she cant remember much, she doesnt think she was unconscious ? She's been at work every day since it happened & someone else is riding the horses out as she cant get her riding hat on due to swelling on forehead. Plus her ribs are very painful. Between the Drs. & me getting there Friday to take her to hospital, she mucked out 3 horses & could hardly see for blood, even though padded with dressings, which were just leaking. She stayed cheerful all of the time & went back & made dinner for herself & Zak, washed the dishes, etc. before bed. Next morning was up, fed dogs, hens, & was at work normal time.

I still think she should go back & demand x-rays, but has to go get sutures out Friday, so I might just happen to be there.......


Thanks for your kind thoughts. x
dk
wensam
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#326 | Posted: 19 Oct 2011 11:14
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MK_DON:
I guess all that i need to do now is train to become a teacher
and I can bring down the system from within :o)

Well good luck MK_DON- you will be my hero if you do bring them down!!

Ww
MK_DON
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#327 | Posted: 19 Oct 2011 15:34
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dreamkatcher:
. I got a call to take her to hospital. so drove over 200 miles, got her sorted & back home safe. 5 days later & she still cant remember exactly what happened & other things are hard to remember.

I'm saddened to hear that - although at the same time think that if the left side of the brain has not been functioning as it should for the last 5 days
then there is a possibility she could really benefit from the experience...

Look at this kid for example - totally different end of the spectrum but...
'Jake was diagnosed with Aspergers syndrome, a mild form of autism, from an early age.
His parents were worried when he didn't talk until the age of two, suspecting he was educationally abnormal.'

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1369595/Jacob-Barnett-12-higher-IQ-Einstein-d evelops-theory-relativity.html#ixzz1bEpZYnIy
dreamkatcher
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#328 | Posted: 19 Oct 2011 22:45
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MK_DON:
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1369595/Jacob-Barnett-12-higher-IQ-Einstein-d evelops-theory-relativity.html#ixzz1bEpZYnIy

Great story.
Arrmand
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#329 | Posted: 11 Jan 2012 11:11
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I got a question for all the regulars and to an extent looking for a little bit of guidence concerning AM.

I stay in an Essex Village around the area where I stay its full of Fields, mostly Crop fields not cattle, but we do have a lot of wild life like deer, badgers, foxes etc and staying with in 3 miles of Hatfield Forest, I get around all these places on a daily basis I usually walk upto 8 miles a day with my dog.

From time to time I have come across animals, dead I would speculate mostly by natural means old age or predators, but my question is if I did come across something that did not look right, what would someone who investigates AM carry on there person?

Some of the gear I would guess is like a camera, video to document the wounds, but is there other things I could carry to make it more informative I have an old EMF meter from my ghost hunting days, I have heard that there is an EMF field around the carcass where there has been a AM.

I was just thinking that if I am ever lucky to come across one I like to be able to document it in a professional manner.

I did send a Email to the APFU, but still waiting for a response, they must be so busy out in the fields of Dartmoor or Wales.
Regards Alan
quark1
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#330 | Posted: 11 Jan 2012 16:35 | Edited by: quark1
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I live next to a semi-rural area and I have for a long time now always gone out with a camera - this is now 2 cameras as I was lucky enough to win a flip mino online! wayhey. So if I include my mobile - that is potentially 3 photographic devices. My main reason is that I am ever hopeful that one day I might look skywards and see something of interest which is not of this world - well you never know and I don't want to be the nit who couldn't show the evidence. One camera could be alleged to be interefered with by debunkers - but if 3 were simultaneously recording on different media then that would be more solid.

Now if I were specifically looking for AM subjects I would go out with my cameras but do not have access to special electrical meters as carried by the likes of David Cayton and co. Watch the AM shows available online or get the DVDs. Silent killers in Sussex was of particular interest to me because opf its close location - this is one RHD and DC got to have quite a good look at with the co-operation of the owners of the horse which had been alive and kicking in the field just the day before the gruesome find.

I would carry things which were cheap and easily obtainable - rubber gloves, a ruler to size up the jaw strips and rectal coring etc (and a strong plastic bag!), perhaps a small knife and some large tweezers/tongs to collect samples and a small number of those plastic sample jars the doctors give you for you know what. A syringe to collect any liquid samples - with or without a needle. I guess if you have space in your bag and can carry the weight some sterilized smaller lidded jars would do. Samples of any peculiar flora around the subject might prove interesting and perhaps dig a little deeper and collect one or 2 samples of soil. So include an old spoon or small trowel.

Make the bag for samples one of those small insulated jobbies and have an ice-pad you'd use for picnic baskets inside.

I would be inclined to ensure the preservation of any samples taken by splitting and say dividing between a fridge and a freezer - photographing everything before storing.

You would be best advised to contact someone like RDH who has access to David Cayton and his team BEFORE notifying any general authority as when they come on the scene you are unlikely to have any further access to the AM subject and the veterinary reports will never be published in your direction.

I have never believed that AM victims left in fields have anything to do with our military or govt scientific research bods as those kinds of things would go on behind closed doors with adequate incinerator facilities at the ready to dispose of the evidence.

No 'ordinary' person has ever been charged and prosecuted for the kinds of mutilations seen on RDHs progs and these occur with similar characteristics throughout the world - and humans have also been found on occasion in this condition.

So it goes without saying that something along the lines of Sherlock - when everything has been logically eliminated, then what you are left with is the truth no-matter how unlikely that might be. (with apologies to A Conan-Doyle!)

I should also add I am in no way a professional scientist - even an 'educated' one - but if I watching a forensic investigation these are the things I would look to obtain and preserve and detail by my own written descriptions etc. Good luck with you hunt for these things - not that I want to see creatures killed and mutliated - but we realy do need some decent answers on this matter.
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