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ImOverHere
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#136 | Posted: 16 Jun 2010 03:37
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reply to monkeyboy's post 23.8.2009
Well impressed with your post, I always counter the divine creation theory by offering intelligent intervention as an alternative.
You have made good points on construction of society.
My concern is that any alien race conclude we are not worth the effort and decide on a fresh start.
Another concern is that certain species are pally pally with the Americans - Why provide technology to them with the biggest guns !
Joe
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#137 | Posted: 16 Jun 2010 14:27 | Edited by: Joe
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ImOverHere, As you say, of course the whole point of a forum is for discussion, but let's have an intelligent discussion on the subject. You cannot debate anything from the point of stupidity, it just stays that way. Like many other forums I've been to, it just remains stagnant with silly talk and not a proper discussion at any time.

A lot of these sites that you seem to like are only on the web to sensationalise - they don't take the subject seriously, and have no real worth and nothing to offer.

Like you, I wish that there were more people on this forum, particularly those who are more genuinely knowledge based on the subject.

Then we can really get a good interesting debate going.
Starseed
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#138 | Posted: 16 Jun 2010 16:41
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ImOverHere:
I prefer to be amazed with new information and theories rather than glib 2 line negative statements.

That`s me then, and...
Here`s the second line - LOL
Starseed
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#139 | Posted: 16 Jun 2010 16:48
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Take Ickes site for eg. It`s worth a visit because people post what they find from different sites that show what`s going on out there. Some of this stuff would remain buried if not for the daily news section.

On the other hand, most of the rest of it is full of crap frankly. People arguing about nothing that they can prove either way.

This site`s good because it relates to the TV progs and that gives it a focus.

IMO - post what you like & If it`s shit it will no doubt be ignored, if it`s interesting it gets comments. That`s life eh?
Starseed
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#140 | Posted: 11 Sep 2010 22:48 | Edited by: Starseed
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this thread/ NOT one visit since June
And. To be fair - nothing before that for months...
lazyhorse
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#141 | Posted: 24 Sep 2010 03:20
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great vid with bill cooper.
"fake alien invasion planned".

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQZBU4RGuTY
Joe
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#142 | Posted: 24 Sep 2010 04:25 | Edited by: Joe
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You can still get that book from "Amazon" and other places, or just download it in "PDF" format which I have done (too late to read at the moment).

I thought it was strange when he said: "You will have to look for the book yourself - I don't know where you can get it from". Surely he does? He made it sound like I would have to blow-up a vault somewhere to get it.

Interesting take, but "you" have to be careful, he may be privy to some of the information and the rest is supposition on his part. Who really knows what's going on?

http://www.amazon.com/REPORT-IRON-MOUNTAIN-Possibility-Desirability/dp/068482390X
lazyhorse
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#143 | Posted: 25 Sep 2010 06:00 | Edited by: lazyhorse
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cheers joe. i would never have looked for the book. pdf though, luvly jubly.

http://projectcamelot.org/Report_from_Iron_Mountain.pdf
right click save as. bobs your uncle.

heres bill cooper again. big long talk. i think this is before he became skeptical about the alien aspect to these things. still trying to figure out bill, but i like him. i think he's honest.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4574387786893863155

and another nazi tech vid. check out the photos in the second half of the vid. some of those early jerry discs were ugly bugly.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-663200329450882531
dreamkatcher
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#144 | Posted: 25 Sep 2010 11:43
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May be of interest...

http://globalwarming-arclein.blogspot.com/2010/09/sealand-skull-photo-released.html

SATURDAY, SEPTEMBER 18, 2010

Sealand Skull Photo Released
<http://globalwarming-arclein.blogspot.com/2010/09/sealand-skull-photo-released.html>

<http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_Jx78YcF-F8U/TJTpjO1wMmI/AAAAAAAADPY/M5d3XeF2Lyg/s1600/seal andskull.jpg>
I am not sure what the rest of the story is about, except we have this
remarkable artifact that was found in disturbed ground and that the
dating of its burial is effectively irrelevant. It is clearly even to
us, a non human skull and more informed inspection eliminates a terran
genesis unless that changes under further investigation.
It is an alien skull at this point unless it has been outright faked and
that game will not survive a DNA analysis.
From there we can proceed to further investigation. Expert comparative
taxometry can be applied and we can learn in detail why and how it
differs from mammal skulls. An DNA analysis can be generated and also
compared to the human standard. From there we can even prepare the
genome if it is possible. The first question is to discover how
divergent it is from humanity.
So what are we waiting for? This artifact, regardless of provenance did
not manufacture itself nor did a human somehow grow it. It might be a
human variant or abnormality, although right now no one really can
believe that.
Recall we also have the star child skull which can plausibly be
explained as an abnormality. This one takes a pretty long stretch to
make that claim. Again DNA will clarify all that.
Again, do get the DNA data and do post it on the internet for all to see
and discuss.
There is ample indication of alien visitation in the body of UFO
evidence and actual remains are unsurprising except to give us a chance
to refine the evidence. An indisputable DNA record will do wonderfully.
Sealand skull photos released
Posted on Thursday, 9 September, 2010
Columnist: Anton Spangenberg
http://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/column.php?id=189988
An alien survivor from a prehistoric saucer crash? An unfortunate time
traveler from the future? A tradesman from a parallel universe? A
hitherto undiscovered species? Or a mere freak deformity of a human
being? Nobody knows for sure, but no matter the explanation, the Sealand
Skull has potential to change the view of the world we live in.
The July 2007 discovery of the skull in Olstykke on the Danish island
Sealand did however not make headlines and remained largely ignored by
science until 2010. The researchers who in 2008 examined the skull at
the Veterinarian High School in Copenhagen merely concluded that
"Although resembling a mammal, certain features make it impossible to
fit the animal into Linnaean taxonomy".
Dug up during the replacement of old sewer pipes, the finder at first
believed that it was some horse bone, as the house formerly belonged to
a horse butcher, and the garden is full of remains. It was not until
refilling the trench that he noticed its humanoid shape. Later
excavations at the site have not uncovered further remains with
connection to the creature, only identifiable animal bones, stone axes
and other Neolithic tools which are common to the area. The fact that
the skull was found among Neolithic remains does however, not reveal its
age. Carbon 14 dating at the Niels Bohr Institute in Copenhagen has
shown that the creature lived between 1200 and 1280 AD. Furthermore, the
skull was found above the old pipes, whose age suggests that it wasn't
buried until after 1900. Also the absence of other skeleton parts of the
creature, together with the skull's state of preservation, has led the
scientists to suspect that it has not been buried for long, probably
only a couple of decades.
Perhaps to conceal the secret behind its existence someone stored it for
ages and later deliberately buried it. It is interesting to note that
residents in Olstykke and nearby villages have from former times told
about a local member of l'Ordre Lux Pégasos (the Order of Pegasus'
Light), whom accordingly on behalf of the order protected various items
-- among them a mysterious cranium and several devices made of
extraordinary light, albeit unbreakable metal or ceramics. The skull is
said to have originated from the Balkans, but it has also been stored in
Paris, France, and in Munich, Germany, before arriving in Denmark.
If the story holds true, it is possible that further research may lead
to the whereabouts of alien artefacts. It is plausible that l'Ordre Lux
Pégasos still keeps objects as well as insights into their origin and
purpose. Little is known about the order however, except that it was
established around 1350 and throughout its existence has counted
influential poets and authors among its members. Among the prominent
initiated were Giovanni Boccaccio, William Shakespeare, Réne Descartes,
Thomas Jefferson, Edward Bulwer-Lytton, Ambrose Bierce, Karin Boye, H.G.
Wells, Julio Cortázar, Joseph Heller, Octavia Butler, Aleksandr
Solsjenitsyn and Ahmed al-Baghdadi. One can wonder why the task of
preserving alien artefacts and knowledge fell upon an order solely
consisting of writers, but the very name of the order does hint at one
or more guests from the Pegasus constellation, who for some time lived
among us and brought us vast knowledges and inspiration. The secrecy of
the order however suggests that humanity is not yet ready to share the
Pegasian knowledge.
The Sealand Skull is about one and a half times larger than a male Homo
sapiens cranium. Especially the eye sockets contribute to its size. Its
smooth surface reveals that the creature was adapted to cold climate,
and its relative eye size that it was either a night creature, lived
underground or on a planet orbiting a remote or dim star, probably an
orange or red dwarf. It is noted that the star 51 Pegasi in the Pegasus
constellation was the first Sun-like star known to have a planet.
Planets orbiting the Pegasus star HR 8799 were the first to be directly
imaged, and spectroscopic analysis of HD 209458 b, another planet in the
constellation, has provided the first evidence of atmospheric water
vapor beyond our solar system.
CTRILEY
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#145 | Posted: 28 Sep 2010 20:52
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Read This:

http://www.ufodigest.com/article/robert-hastings-announces-ufos-nukes-press-conferenc e-washington-dc-september-27th-2010

To svae you clicking the main stuff states:

Witness testimony from more than 120 former or retired military personnel points to an ongoing and alarming intervention by unidentified aerial objects at nuclear weapons sites, as recently as 2003. In some cases, several nuclear missiles simultaneously and inexplicably malfunctioned while a disc-shaped object silently hovered nearby. Six former U.S. Air Force officers and one former enlisted man will break their silence about these events at the National Press Club and urge the government to publicly confirm their reality. One of them, ICBM launch officer Captain Robert Salas, was on duty during one missile disruption incident at Malmstrom Air Force Base and was ordered to never discuss it. Another participant, retired Col. Charles Halt, observed a disc-shaped object directing beams of light down into the RAF Bentwaters airbase in England and heard on the radio that they landed in the nuclear weapons storage area. Both men will provide stunning details about these events, and reveal how the U.S. military responded.

Captain Salas notes, "The U.S. Air Force is lying about the national security implications of unidentified aerial objects at nuclear bases and we can prove it." Col. Halt adds, "I believe that the security services of both the United States and the United Kingdom have attempted—both then and now—to subvert the significance of what occurred at RAF Bentwaters by the use of well-practiced methods of disinformation." The group of witnesses and a leading researcher, who has brought them together for the first time, will discuss the national security implications of these and other alarmingly similar incidents and will urge the government to reveal all information about them. This is a public-awareness issue.

Declassified U.S. government documents, to be distributed at the event, now substantiate the reality of UFO activity at nuclear weapons sites extending back to 1948. The press conference will also address present-day concerns about the abuse of government secrecy as well as the ongoing threat of nuclear weapons.

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I saw this report in today's Northern Echo and had to hunt it down elsewhere on the NET. When this is viewed at in relation to the claimed true purpose of the first "Star Wars" program, then a number of things start to make sense.
ImOverHere
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#146 | Posted: 28 Sep 2010 22:14
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If this is the case we should all be pleased and relieved that there are forces at work stopping the nutters from nuking each other along with all the innocents.
Starseed
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#147 | Posted: 28 Sep 2010 22:31
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CTRILEY

I posted this earlier on the Disclosure board:
Just in case anyone wanted to see it:


Exopolitik-NPC Press Conference UFOs And Nukes Sept 27 2010 Pt 1/5

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ng8haVAx6JY

Exopolitik-NPC Press Conference UFOs And Nukes Sept 27 2010 Pt 2/5

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F79GyjMElCw

The rest here:
http://www.youtube.com/user/TinyInt64


Seems very good - VERY credible people.
ImOverHere
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#148 | Posted: 28 Sep 2010 22:40
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All seem really credible, I've come across a lot of stuff over time about unsolicited interventions disabling nukes. Can they get to the Trident subs I wonder ?

Yet another reason why billions of £s of our money should not be wasted.
Starseed
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#149 | Posted: 28 Sep 2010 22:42
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ImOverHere:
Can they get to the Trident subs I wonder ?

Sure can - Our very own RDH worked on that programme I believe??
RICHPLANET.NET
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#150 | Posted: 28 Sep 2010 23:13 | Edited by: RICHPLANET.NET
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I worked on a microprocessor control system which operates the crane that lifts the weapon and lowers it into the submarine (have I just breached the official secrets act!). I never went on a submarine. All the work I did when I was there was with a simulated missile not a real one. A 125 tonne bag of water would you believe.

As far as I am aware regards our (Britains) nuclear capability, we are totally dependent on America. In other words the technology does not allow us to use the weapons without America approving the launch. America control our nuclear weapons.

Can E.T.s mess with the submarines when they are under the water. I haven't a clue. I don't know of any incidents of this. Planes, yes, underground bunkers, yes, underwater I don't know.

Perhaps this would be an effective way of preventing E.T. communication and abduction. Sleep in a bath full of water wearing a snorkle and divers mask.
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