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#61 | Posted: 15 Apr 2009 23:36
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I can honestly say that I have not seen Braveheart. (Or Titanic, Saving Private Ryan, Pearl Harbour). All films that claim to represent historical facts, but are written to show certain people in certain light for a certain agenda. I am glad I have never seen them. I read the reviews and that was enough.
Dave Hall
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#62 | Posted: 16 Apr 2009 00:37
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telecaster:
On a different note, I`ve started judging ufo evidence from a different
angle because the lies are apparent on all levels and anything can be
misinformation. Not being paranoid, just judging for myself if that makes
sense.

You are right, there is so much disinformation out there, that you have to sort the wheat from the chaff.
But it does do your head in.
What gets me is that goverments MUST see whats going on, but they still sit on there hands and do, or say, nothing,it really beggers believe !!
And I am still sat here tapping away,another late night
Dave
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#63 | Posted: 16 Apr 2009 22:40
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Hi Dave,
is it "Dis" or "Mis" information....who cares, it`s all bulls*** !
I`ve heard there is some good information on films that mirror
real life that the directors had help with.....Close Encounters being
one. I still like the original "Day the Earth stood still". Good science
fiction and does show what would probably happen if it did.
I wonder if Richard is still going to interview David Icke. His views
on reality are what I`ve been seeing for a while but he has put it
into words better than I could. I`m glad he is now getting the recognition
he deserves.
As for Nick Pope.......am I being too harsh ?
T.
Dave Hall
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#64 | Posted: 16 Apr 2009 23:45
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Hi T
I think it was Reagan when asked about "Close Encounters", said something like
"If you only knew how near the truth this film is"
Its my favorite film, and I watched it again just the other day, and its still great.
I have also watch some David Ike videos, that guy can really put a point across.
A really good watch. trouble is , so much out there, not enough time !!!
Dave
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#65 | Posted: 17 Apr 2009 14:53
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Hi Dave,
I always find time for David Icke, he hit the nail on the head !
I think it was Richard Hoagland who mentioned some films that
had "outside help" and he mentioned George Lucas, Spielberg
and Gene Roddenberry in the same sentence.
I`m still searching for more clues on this.
T.
CTRILEY
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#66 | Posted: 17 Apr 2009 21:09 | Edited by: CTRILEY
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As I recall according to Speilberg "Close Encounters" was based on a real event. If you've got a copy of the dvd the place where it happened is mentioned on one of the extra features.

Star Wars was influnced by Akira Kurosawa's 1958 film "The Hidden Fortress", combined with many elements from the Arthurian tradition. Whilst he draws on many other references to provide a real world feel.

What is intresting to note is that many of the names used derive from real names and terms from around the world. For example Jedi is a Japanese word to desribe the style of Japanese movies which we in the West would simply call Samurai movies. Darth Vader is as I recall Norwegian for "Dark Father", whilst Sith is the old Gaelic spelling of Sí meaning "fairy".

Whilst Lucas claims the Force is a reference to Chi energy, but within Druirdry the term "Force" ("Dragon Force" in Welsh druidry and "Life Force" in Irish druidry) is used when referring to the energy which appears around sites such as 'The Hill of Tara', Stonehenge, etc. Thus many of the references are hidden within the language and references used.

I suggest you read Stone Age Soundtracks, by Paul Devereux and Tony Richardson, it's about the sound properites of various ancient sights around the world, it will blow your mind. I have an explanation on file for the sound properties of New Grange in Ireland, I'll put it on screen if any of you are interested.
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#67 | Posted: 18 Apr 2009 23:54
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Yes, definately interested.
I saw a show once where a university prof used sound to influence
powder on a metal sheet using a bow to achieve pitch. The powder
created certain patterns on the sheet according to pitch. I think it was
a programme about Roslyn Chapel/Knights Templar because there are
certain symbols on the stone pillars inside the chapel that he thought
represent musical notes. But you probably know that lol !
I used to live near Stonehenge and my great grandad kept his sheep
in the same field early last century. A good friend of mine who has
passed away now was certain that Stonehenge had something to do
with E.T.s. Don`t ask me how or why but he could see back in time
and he told me he could see the craft flying toward the stones via the
Heel Stone as a guide point and what happened when it arrived at the
stones had something to do with the aliens ! As I wasn`t much into
aliens at the time, I didn`t ask what......Derrrrrrr !
T.
CTRILEY
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#68 | Posted: 19 Apr 2009 09:10 | Edited by: CTRILEY
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Over a decade ago a lecturer from Reading University was on holiday in Scotland. Whilst visiting one of the megalithic structure he noticed that the structure had acoustic properties. After returning to his university he reported the matter, causing the university to investigate this and all other structures. Thus, this information comes not from amateurs (with limited knowledge and resources), but from professionals from a respected university with far greater knowledge and resources to make a far more detailed investigation.

In you apply their discoveries with information from other sources what you find is that whoever built these structures had advanced knowledge of acoustics and that these were connected with solstice rituals. Noise produced at certain points within a stone circle are reflected off the stone columns back to that point, turning the stone circle into a loud speaker that amplifies sound by 300%. This is only possible because of the manner in which the stone had been cut. Which means that the rough cut odd shaped rocks used at such structures were that way through acoustic design, not as the result of poor skills in stone cutting. Likewise the smoothed sides of Stonehenge's outer stone columns disperse sound, while the irregular cut convex surfaces reflects sound back into the centre of the ring.

Tumulus structures such as Newgrange (also called Brugh na Bóinne and built around 3,200 BC) were designed to not only produce an echo, but when the noise was of a resonant frequency of between 95 HZ and 112 HZ the noise is amplified (with an average of 110 HZ, but all resonant frequencies were found to be at the bottom of the male baritone). The design of each tumulus causes it to act as a Helmholtz resonator, the result of which is that any major source of external noise at the appropriate resonant frequency (such as a strong wind or the sound from a thunder storm) that passes the tumulus entrance creates an amplified noise, an effect identical to that produced when blowing over an empty bottle.

Within some of these tumulus structures the remains of drums have been found and when reconstructions of these same drums were played it was found that the sound was reflected off each wall. However, because of the acoustic design, the drum beats not only create areas of sound amplification within the anti-chambers (where the dead were placed), but also standing sound waves which cancel each other out to create an area silence where people would stand. This also causes a Helmholtz resonance to occur at an infra-sonic frequency of 2 HZ, which though below the range of human hearing does have a direct physical effect on the human body producing feelings of giddiness, dizzying, nausea, hallucinations and uneasiness. If this noise was created as part of some religious ritual then anyone suffering such effects could easily believe they were in a trance or on a journey into the otherworld.

Since such tumulus structures were aligned so that either the Solstice Sun would illuminate the tumulus entrance, it is believed that the acoustic design and rituals are directly connected with the Solstices. This is because the standing sound wave coming from passage grave directly effects any dust inside the tumulus or incense fires outside the passage grave entrance, causing them to move according to the sound wave. When illuminated by the rising Sun the dust and incense make the sound wave visible to the human eye. When this standing sound wave was graphically represented on a computer it was found to have twelve peeks and troughs, which when viewed from the side matched perfectly the chevron and zig-zag line rock art found at Newgrange, while when viewed from above matched perfectly the concentric circles also found at Newgrange (circles that were a great influence on Celtic Art). This circle is also represented in triskele form on the walls of the Western and Eastern chambers, but not only are both perfectly aligned with the other but are both in alignment with the Moon when its sets on the horizon every 18.6 years as part of the Lunarstice (the Moon's equivalent of the Sun's Solstice).

According to Celtic mysticism and cosmology the light of the Sun entering Newgrange on the morning of the Winter Solstice is connected with the Sky Father (Lugh) and the darkness of night is connected to the Mother Goddess (Danu), then this lunar connection likewise relates to the Mother Goddess. Thus it is believed that during such a Lunarstice that the souls of those whose bodies were placed within Newgrange, would obtain rebirth in the next world. It is important to note that within Newgrange there are three anti-chambers, two represent the ovaries of the Mother Goddess, whilst the third along helps form a cross, which though normally associated with Christianity is also a pre-Christian symbol for the Cosmic tree of life. Thus, Newgrange's internal design also serves to symbolise the Mother Goddess's connection with nature and the tree of life.

Those believed to have built the first structures which started the megalithic culture were the original inhabitants of Ireland (better known as the "Sen Érainn" or "The Old Erainn"), whose descendants are the various tribes, clans and septs who originate from County Munster. While to understand why these were built you need to understand aspects of Celtic cosmology. Although partly influenced by Sen Érainn the main originators of what is define as Irish Druidry were the Fomorians who within Irish texts are believed to have been an group of Egyptians who intermarried with Indo-Europeans living in Thrace, who migrated out of Thrace and eventually settled in Ireland.

According to Celtic mysticism water was believed be the first principle of all things and had existed in a pure form before the creation of the world, but was made impure after coming into contact with the earth. The mystical sympathy that existed between the soul of humankind and the purity of water caused water to be worshipped. The Celts regarded air as the home of beings of a more spiritual nature than humans, while fire was seen as a vital principle brought into action at the time of creation. The earth was worshipped because it was the mother of all life, while trees were seen as physical evidence of the earth's productive power. The sky and the forests were the temple of the deities as the Celts believed that no deity could not be confined within the limits of the enclosed space of a building. This belief derives from the fact that universally the forest is seen as symbolizing the feminine principle and is the realm of the psyche and the dead, a place of testing and initiation, the cosmos in its entirety, the place in which are contained the secrets of nature and the spiritual world. While within the Celtic tradition it is also a place where the Sun and the forest are married as male and female, light and darkness. Neolithic stone columns, megalithic and tumulus structures also serve as places of sexual union for the Mother Goddess and Sky Father, but each differing slightly in the method used.

Stone columns (such as the Lia Fáil at Tara) represent a phallus which constantly penetrates the soil and thus the Mother Goddess ensuring fertility of the land. Megalithic structures (such as Stonehenge) serve the same purpose, only this time the Mother Goddess is represented by stones placed in a circle (representing a cervix, vagina and womb, but round to symbolize the Earth Mother in a state of pregnancy) which is penetrated by the Sky Father by means of the shadow of a tall stone (representing the male phallus) produced at the dawn of the Summer and Winter Solstices. Tumulus structures also serve this purpose but the tumulus represents the procreative powers of the Mother Goddess in which the narrow passageways that penetrate into the ground symbolize the vagina and womb of the Mother Goddess, while the side chambers into which the bodies of the dead are placed symbolize the ovaries of the Mother Goddess. Each tumulus is aligned so that on the morning of each Solstice a shaft of light from the rising Sun (the sky father) penetrates the roof box over the entrance of the narrow passageway causing the Mother Goddess and the Sky Father to be united in intercourse, thus renewing the fertility of the land.

The interior of many tumulus sctructures were built in the shape of a cross (representing the tree of life), whilst stone circles represented the Mother Goddess in a state of pregnancy, however if both were constructed above ground in such a manner that one is interposed on the other then the resultant construction would be that of a Celtic Cross such as the Callanish Stones in Scotland (built around 1,000 BC). Thus, all these structures from Newgrange, Stonehenge, etc., were all built for rituals of symbolic magic, intended to cause their deities to make the land and animals fertile, so they'll have food to eat.

One can only imagine the profound spiritual symbolism and significance such a combination of light, sound, sight and physical feelings would have had on the pre-historic mind. Perhaps one dare speculate that upon the Solstice day, as the light of the Sky Father impregnated the womb of the Mother Goddess, which they in their minds believed that they were seeing and hearing the power of their deities. Despite the passage of thousands the majority of these sights are still working to this day.

Regardless of want we each think about who built these structures or how they got the knowledge, you can't help but be impressed. But I'll bet you'll never watch "The Flintstones" in the same way again.
CTRILEY
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#69 | Posted: 19 Apr 2009 21:06 | Edited by: CTRILEY
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Now how these may relate to Telestar's friend.

The majority of the megaliths were built at points where the so called Dragon/Life Force is believed to manifest itself on the Earth's surface, thus creating the electrical charge which has be reported at these sites. Tara is vastly different, it wasn't built by the Sen Érainn, but rather by the Tuatha Dé Dannan who arrived much later (around 1,000 BC). The location was chosen because it formed a natural grove within a vast forest of Hazel trees, but this natural grove was supposedly put there by the Gods. In the centre of this natural grove was placed the Lia Fáil and Tara was built around it, which became the spiritual centre of pagan Ireland and overtime developed from a temple into a palace.

These structures are often located near to portals to what is termed "The otherworld". But what if these so called "portal to the otherworld" are something else? For example what if they were faults in the space time continum which acted as (for want of a better term) jump points for UFOs (like worm holes on Star Trek), with the so called Dragon/Life force being some sort of residual energy from these jump points? The native population would see these events in terms of the spiritual and the supernatural. Thus build structures near them, which reflected their own religious beliefs.

Any species capable of interstellar travel wouldn't require the use of stone based technology (least of all something which marks the solstices, have acoustic properties and takes time to construct), but would use clear land marks to serve as navigation markers. Since Tara was built in a natural grove within a vast forest, then logically if such a jump point existed there, they'd have to clear a larget area to avoid crashing into trees.

Thus humans by building these structures and aliens using them for navigation would explain why all the evidence points to human construction (consistant with human religious development) and the sightings of UFO's at Tara, Stonehenge, etc.
Dave Hall
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#70 | Posted: 22 Apr 2009 20:27
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Worth a read
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CTRILEY
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#71 | Posted: 22 Apr 2009 21:38
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Worth a read indeed.
Dave Hall
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#72 | Posted: 24 Apr 2009 20:46
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Did enyone know about this?
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#73 | Posted: 24 Apr 2009 20:50
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Or this?
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#74 | Posted: 24 Apr 2009 21:36
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Yes.
T.
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#75 | Posted: 24 Apr 2009 22:38
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OHHH OK !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
D. LOL
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